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Does progressive ideology constantly require the need to push boundaries even when it gets to a point where it inherently harms others?
submitted 1 year ago by Adventurous_Ad6212 from self.AskSaidIt
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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago* (2 children)
Yes but they don't think they are doing harm
Progressivism is an ideology with a single principle - change - they have to move forward much like conservatism's principle is 'dont change it'.
There are no static principles here. Progressives used to support free speech for instance, when it was a new and progressive value, but have now progressed to a new and 'better' ideology of restricting dangerous speech.
Conversely, most historical attacks on speech in the US have been from christian conservatives concerned with naughtiness. But this also isnt static, because now free speech is becoming an old 'traditional' value rather than a 'new' progressive value, and we see conservatives defend it
Both of these ideologies are defining good not by any principles, but where those principles exist in time, i.e whether they are 'traditional' or 'new' values. Traditional values are the boundaries here. Progressives have to push boundaries, and conservatives must protect them. Reducing harm is assumed to be synonymous with progressivism and conservatism respectively by the followers of these ideologies, they both think they are doing good.
[–]HanssenBob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago (1 child)
What you're saying is that "conservatives" are now classically liberal, and that "progressives" are now authoritarian.
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I think we are seeing a shift in that direction yes
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