I dunno about Notabug.io, it seems both primitive and confusing at the same time. And kinda desolate (even more so than saidit). Can you make your own communities/subs there? And like... how does it really work? What's its use case?
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I'm looking for something else than saidit to have a backup. If I'm going to put any effort into stuff, I just want to have an illusion of safety. Tho I'll probably shill my sub on a couple of places on reddit, I think there can be a few people who'd want to go there.
There are only topics, and they aren't pre-defined. You just type in whatever you want.
I had thought that notabug.io would be OK, but it's been abandoned and has disruptive posters rampaging through the site.
I had thought that notabug.io would be OK, but it's been abandoned
Abandoned? The ssl certs are still regularly updated, bots that censor offensive speech still work, submissions are still clearly oriented toward a certain objective, real users still post content every day, and the server is still regularly restarted. Did you have evidence to support your claim?
and has disruptive posters rampaging through the site.
There have certainly been efforts to disrupt the website. Have they been successful? No, their schemes are clearly seen through. They are incentivized to destroy the website, whether it is to use it as a surrogate for their own fork, or to protect the individuals responsible for the events that have taken place there in the past year, I know not.
The last time I checked, the front page was full of garbage, all of which had been upvoted to 111 or thereabouts. When I made a post pointing this out, several accounts told me to fuck off and one actual account said that the creator was known to abandon the site for months at a time and that I shouldn't expect anything better. I left after that.
I'm not sure what your definition of garbage is but I hardly think that a smattering of varied articles -- not all of which are political -- is it. The content doesn't change as quickly as on saiddit, for example, but it is generally fresh enough that I visit once a day. If there's anything to complain about it's the dearth of comments. As of writing there's not a single post on the FP that's higher than 40.
I'm not saying notabug is great. In fact it's rather weak cheese. But it's not garbage either.
I don't blame you for leaving. I'm sorry this was your experience, but please understand how trying it is for those who actively want to see the website succeed. This abusive behavior is what led me to the predicament that I face (namely that I lost my life savings to go1dfish) and I supect this abuse to be paid for by some government, and closely tied to Havana Syndrome.
I predict that you will continue to refuse taking your schizophrenia medication
That's cool that you want to gaslight me, but I said nothing excessively outlandish, nor do I even know you.
This abusive behavior is what led me to the predicament that I face (namely that I lost my life savings to go1dfish) and I supect this abuse to be paid for by some government, and closely tied to Havana Syndrome.
You read what you posted, right?
namely that I lost my life savings to go1dfish
This is proven
supect this abuse to be paid for by some government
This is still happening and clearly has some agenda
and closely tied to Havana Syndrome.
And this you'll just have to take my word on, given I've been screaming about it for seven months straight now.
Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun - 12 hours ago The last time I checked, the front page was full of garbage
Whats more crazy is the fact that the Welcome to notabug post has a -1074 rating
I'd go to communities.win if you want an active reddit-like platform.
But they only tolerate fascist retards who will agree to promote extreme right misinformation.
Fuck off socks.
Enjoy bending over for BigCorp's little pricks.
said the ultimate shill for corpo propaganda
just shut up man, this bullshit you're saying might get you bot likes on twitter and reddit but not here. "muh alt right, muh fascism"
So you're also insane? I didn't write, "said the ultimate shill for corpo propaganda".
I love you socks. Infinite Jest
being this clueless about how internet conversations work
さすがソックス様
ever heard the phrase "lurk more before posting"? Because that's exactly what you need to do. Or just stop posting.
So you are insane.
says the real insane.
oooh, sick burn
again - try thinking, once
Socks normally your replies are at least logically reasonable for a complete idiot, but this one is nonsense. The only reason that site exists in the first place is due to its users and their opinions being banned from every single other platform, payment processor, hosting provider, registrar, aka big corporations. Of all the descriptors you could throw at that site, being some kind of corporate shill site is not one of them.
Thanks - though you can see that I am responding to an insult by Kuasocto. If you refer to my response to the communities.win suggestion, I cannot see how I would change any word of that sentence. Perhaps it's rather crude as a description, but I am not seeing anything other than misinformation at that website. I don't see anything redeemable in the spreading of misinformation.
Yeah, when you get banned from the mainstream extreme left wing sites, you have the other side of the coin. Both result in a certain amount of extremism in the more susceptible participants. But this was initiated by the left, they naively thought that silencing people would quash their ideas when all it did was drive them further from their sphere of influence.
this was initiated by the left
And this was was unrelated to the extremist misinformation and disinformation pushed incessantly by authoritarians? They're completely innocent? They should have been allowed to continue with obvious lies? Well they did continue, until subs like 'theDonald' were banned in January 2021 for spreading lies. But one can still read the same kinds of lies here: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy . The 'left' haven't stopped anything. The right continues their lies.
And this was was unrelated to the extremist misinformation and disinformation pushed incessantly by authoritarians
Engage in finger pointing if you wish, I merely noted it happened.
The right continues their lies.
How do you know when a politician is lying? His lips are moving. Play serf games, win serf prizes. Playing sides doesn't make sense at the bottom.
There's no reason to tolerate misinformation campaigns, or to tolerate the abuses of authoritarians and their propaganda.
There's no reason to tolerate misinformation campaigns, or to tolerate the abuses of authoritarians and their propaganda.
You're saying I should stop arguing against everyone wanting to ban you, why?
Am I spreading misinformation propaganda and supporting the abuses of authoritarians and their propaganda? It's not realistic to equate this with its opposite. That too is another authoritarian strategy.
Am I spreading misinformation propaganda and supporting the abuses of authoritarians and their propaganda?
How is that a serious question, you have the political views of a typical redditor. Did you forget you've been espousing bad covid advice for months?
I was surprised that so many Saiditors are anti-vax, and believe the lies and propaganda. One wonders how people can be so dumb and gullible, and that the anti-vax campaign is a GOP psyop. I merely corrected them on occasion. No one required my advice, as the information for dealing with COVID has been abundantly available. We still see on Saidit the same gullible posts, however.
theDonald was similar to any sub dedicated to a certain party the only difference was that it was very popular and reddit couldn't stand it that their favorite subs weren't that successful
reddit couldn't stand it that their favorite subs weren't that successful
LOL - so Reddit banned a sub because Reddit is run by jealous little bitches?
(Might want to ask someone about this who is older than 12, or read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/The_Donald.)
using wikipedia as a source for anything
lol, shows how clueless you are. At this point wikipedia is merely an extension of the mainstream news and curated similarly to reddit, with almost the same biases. And even if it worked the way its supposed to it'd still be a terrible source because it has NONE permanence. What you see today might get completely rewritten tomorrow.
yawn....
it has NONE permanence
LOL
(It has information you can corroborate with other sources.)
Since you are older than 12 why don't you tell us what your problem is instead of posting a link to some article that basically repeats that the donald sub was very successful and reddit bitches couldn't handle it?
I'm 11
The_Donald constantly spread lies and misinformation and helped with the attack on Washington DC. Fuck 'em.
Attack on Washington DC
You mean people aimlessly wandering around the capitol building? You did watch the Cspan videos right, right??
I'm 11
I will guide you, time to turn away from the darkness of ignorance.
the left is the champion of authoritarianism, you don't have to be a genius to find that out. The best thing you can do is to ignore the bullshit, lies, etc coming from that moron sock.
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Read my comment history, numbnuts.
Morons believe in leftism and communism
I see only one post at the second link, with a 0 rating. I see no posts at the first link. I'm not a user at that place.
look again
So you're well-aware that your initial argument really ain't one:
"socks is leftist" is "extreme right misinformation?"
That is the way authoritarians see centrists.
I've seen this before on other sites - left-wing disruptors will claim to be centrist to try and hide. It never works. You can always tell because they never miss an opportunity to punch down on the left's disfavored groups in society. They also never use evidence but merely contradiction. "That's not true" with zero backing it up. They're easy to spot once you know how.
Yes there are lazy extremists on the left and the right.
Except that you actually are extremely Left-wing. The problem here is that idiotic people like yourself use themselves as the point of reference for what is normal and abnormal without even being aware of it... which means that you being 'slightly right' of Noam fucking Chomsky is 'centrist' in your own little world.
'Centrist' would be someone like J.S Mill, which your ass thinks—and no, you do not think with a brain, for yours is so immensely impaired to the point that your ass has reasoned: 'Fuck! There is no brain here! It's up to me to do all the work!', and has since done a poor job of all the mental labour required—is Far-Right. Indeed, your ass has done a better job of thinking once it took over from where (it erroneously thought) your brain was supposed to be, but that's one fucking low bar. The digestive system, you see, was designed for processing something other than information.
It also does not appreciate that numerous rainbow dildos have been placed inside it such that it is becoming increasingly incapable of completing its tasks. I fear that if your ass explodes as such asses are wont to do, there will be nothing left inside your body to take over from where your ass left off.
My reference to the 'center' isn't so insulting. Have a smidgen of confidence in what you want to write, OK? I think I've not seen your username before, and suddenly receive this unhinged rant. There are some GOP approaches I agree with, and many I don't agree with. The bits I don't agree with include the GOP rape of the US 99%. I'll leave it at that.
Actually, like most alternative media, it consists of information that the powerful don't want you to know.
I mean, who wouldn't want to get a peek and see what's really going on?
Yes, we should know what's being promoted. Lies and misinformation should however be identified as such, and not promoted.
Easily explained and partially debunked with facts:
Also see:
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-billionaire-minimum-income-tax-plan-explained-1692864
None of those are credible sources. Mainstream media, seriously? Of course they're going to side with the powerful.
it's information
don't politicise everything
◟(ᵔ ̮ ᵔ)͜💐 Hoping you get better soon.
◟(ᵔ ̮ ᵔ)͜💐 Hoping you get better soon.
It's information that punches down on the little guy trying to speak out and instead promotes what the ruling class wants us to think. Anything that does this is highly suspect. If they say the sky is blue you go outside and check.
no- Chipit
sock, you're an idiot.
Says the Gab shitpost fascist cuck of Saidit.
You have no original thoughts, aaargh
Try to believe in something, anything
◟(ᵔ ̮ ᵔ)͜💐 Hoping you get better soon.
So much for your "intelligent" posts, Socksy. Try to formulate a coherent post. You have a lot of opinion on America when you don't even reside in the US, Socks. ◟(ᵔ ̮ ᵔ)͜💐 Hoping you get better soon. Look how beautiful these flowers are Mr. Socksy.
Except that the Left and 'BigCorp' are on the same side nowadays, you stupid gaping-loose-bunghole-possessing, morbidly-obese, shit-eating, room-temperature-IQ-possessing, soy-guzzling, hormone-gel-rubbing, rainbow-flag-waving, unrecognizably-inbred, endlessly-bloviating, fake-news-devouring, over-soy-cialized subhuman Redditard queer.
After all, it's your side who are shilling hardest for the vaxx, which doesn't come from some homeless guy down the road but, au contraire, from the 1%! How's that for being 'revolutionary'? Bahaha...
the Left and 'BigCorp' are on the same side
Absolutely not. Don't be so brainwashed by Fox News. Read other sources.
Ruqqus leadership was subverted by discord trannies that convinced them to hate their own user base and start manually curating the front page, among other retarded ideas that no one asked for and often vocally opposed. This created a feedback loop of them doing things to seemingly intentionally alienate their users so they could then go in some private discord channels and laugh about everyone being idiots and not liking their big brained changes. Eventually they decided they didn’t want to admin the site anymore, but instead of handing the keys to people who did they chose to burn it to the ground instead. They had a side plan to continue developing the Ruqqus software as a FOSS project, but they couldn’t even do that right and deleted the idea of guilds entirely from it making it absolutely worthless for anyone wanting to make their own online community. No idea what happened to the admins after that, but I like to imagine that the second they deleted Ruqqus they got banned and blocked by their tranny discord “friends” and finally realized that they’d been played. Retards.
Basically ruqqus said: “this platform is for freedom of speech”. And then they started banning people. Then all of us on ruqqus didn’t do anything but shit post. And then we all jumped ship. Now they divided us up into several different websites.
I think Saidit is the best among them all. But I don’t think the majority thinks that. I shit on said it a lot. I’m just waiting for them to start banning me. And then I guess I’ll have to go live in the real world.
It happened in the discord chat. I fucking hate those things. They create an ingroup where none existed before, and suddenly the actual website is the outgroup.
And I was the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist nutcase for predicting it.
I used Ruqqus primarily after I left Reddit. I liked it a lot, but then the site admins went full Reddit and started banning users and subs without warning or explanation. That caused a bunch of users to leave and killed the momentum they had.
After that, I'm not sure what happened. I stayed on until they shutdown. I heard some rumors that said they'd been pressured to shutdown over their politics. Some suggested it was because they ran out of money. Some said they site runners just realized it was going to be a lot more work and more risk than they wanted to accept.
Trolls on Reddit like to pretend that the site just got "overrun with Nazis" and that's what killed it. And while there definitely were a few of those kinds of people, those were the minority from my experience, and they were easy for me to block.
I think the site was just an experiment that they lost interest in. However, the code for the site is open source, and a couple other sites are using it to host forums.
Currently, other than Saidit, which is probably my main news aggregator, I like Gab.com and Communities.win.
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I recall that towards the end they were banning people for very reddit-like reasons, wrongthink, antisemitism etc.
You definitely wont get banned for antisemitism here, that's for sure.
Shalom
FWIW, I think Saidit is still too small to really attract the ire of the twit patrol. They know about us, and they think we're a bunch of nazis because we value discourse, but there are bigger fish to fry that will land them a lot more virtue points than some little Reddit clone that nobody's heard of.
We already have a group of 5-6 users who constantly post to disrupt conversations. On Ruqqus they got a mole into their group and we learned all about how they operate.
Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun - 21 hours ago We already have a group of 5-6 users who constantly post to disrupt conversations. On Ruqqus they got a mole into their group and we learned all about how they operate.
Ruqqus looked pretty promising when it started up. For one thing the interface was easily the best of all of the so-called Reddit clones I'd tried. But also, and more important, it claimed that is was all about Free Speech. Looks good, sign me up.
But right off the bat you couldn't enter certain words in comments. I forget what I was commenting on but the forbidden word was probably nigger or something similarly 'incorrect'. The point being that the site was restricting speech right from day one AKA right speech is what we say it is. I'm all for a certain degree of moderation, because otherwise the place can turn into a fucking zoo for anyone trying to have serious discussions. But it's a thin line to walk and not easy at all to execute well.
I hung around for a month or so just out of curiosity but the place just got lamer and lamer. At there start there were some good posts and comments, but any illusion of edginess and "this is a reflection of the real world" went away pretty fast.
Apparently there was a lot of drama behind the scenes but I wasn't interested so didn't bother to try and get involved. When Ruqqus closed down it was no surprise.
Reddit gets away with claiming to be for free speech but then moderating the fuck out of the place only because it's been around forever and has fostered a huge user base that supports that shit. Any site that wants to start today with the same approach is going to die long before it is large enough and perverted enough to be self sustaining.
A place like notabug generally has good content. But if you say anything that goes against the group think you'll be downvoted to invisibility pretty fast so you know where the community in general stands. But at least the moderators don't get involved. So I don't bother to comment on posts on notabug, but I can still enjoy the content.
Notabug doesn't have many groupthink issues, someone made a bot to downvote every post but their own until it's sunk to the bottom. And every time it gets upvotes, the bot downvotes it more.
Well that would explain a lot. Too bad.
But right off the bat you couldn't enter certain words in comments. I forget what I was commenting on but the forbidden word was probably nigger or something similarly 'incorrect'.
At first they came for nigger, but I didnt say anything because I wasnt a nigger. Then they came for faggot, but I didnt say anything because I wasnt a faggot. But then they came for retard, and there was no one left to speak for me and so became one with the nigger faggot retard
Found the ex-Reddit mod lol
Just as I predicted, the admins' special discord clique became a cabal and they started acting like reddit. By August they banned a bunch of guilds, then explicitly denounced free speech, then deleted everything when everyone obviously didn't take it too well.
Several prominent sites that are very similar which have not been mentioned:
https://www.talk.lol/ (Voat)
phuks doesn't seem to load for me. But poal looks alright. Voat is kinda... eh, better than nothing I guess.
This site is too low iq to bother attacking
Jesus this post brought out the whole userbase
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The ruqqus drama went down shortly after r/MGTOW was banned from Reddit. The influx onto ruqqus ended up being a bit unpalatable and they too were banned. This caused a lot of infighting which rapidly led to ruqqus being shut down.
Notabug.io is another nice alternative, though the person who manages the DNS here usually forwards traffic to r/saiditnet in the event of an outage.