I will always protect black women first before anyone else. Not because I don't value other people but because there is hardly anyone else looking out for black women. It's worth any sacrifice! by [deleted] in TrueLesbians

[–]vegan_dyke 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All the posts from women who felt disgusted and ashamed of being lesbians were depressing and unproductive. I'd rather they post in an emotional support community of some kind.

A little less gendercritical content would have been nice. Most of it was just rants and garbage reposted from other social media sites. There wasn't as much discussion about doing anything to get men out of the community or help the confused young women who might be considering transition. I don't mean to imply that this is lesbians' responsibility, but at least it would have been productive GC discussion.

More culturally diverse content would be nice. It seemed like truelesbians was mostly posts from the perspective of people in the U.S. and the UK. Even if we are the majority, lesbians in other parts of the world could be encouraged to start more topics.

Maybe a little encouragement of more substantial discussion and less drive-by posting. Even if people don't really respond much to one another, there could be questions that are deeper than "what's your favorite lesbian movie?" sometimes to get people to post longer and more thoughtful comments.

Conservative lesbians? by [deleted] in Lesbians

[–]vegan_dyke 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We aren't politically homeless, we just exist outside the simplistic left/right binary. If asked about my political affiliation, I would say that I'm a radical—my politics are intended to get to the root of sociopolitical problems (which mainstream statist politics fail to do).

Why aren't more lesbians interested in female separatism? by Rao in Lesbians

[–]vegan_dyke 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everything pertaining to significantly increased freedom for females gets very little exposure, so most people have not heard of female separatism. The people who are most likely to promote female separatism, radical feminists, are blindly hated and widely misunderstood, so people, even lesbians, will dismiss us without listening to what we have to say about the subject. Among those who have heard about female separatism, there are probably lots of strange and false ideas about what it entails (such as the person below who thinks that separatism involves refraining from going to the grocery store just because men are there).

Separatism is unpopular for the same reason that anarchism is unpopular—they both involve seismic shifts to the current structure of society. The majority of lesbians—just like the majority of people in general—probably want to live in the society they are used to, with just a few tweaks to that society so that they aren't mistreated or disadvantaged. People get attached to what they are used to, even if it's worse than the alternative. They may desire the advantages of separatism, but, I've found, those advantages don't occur to them; someone has to explain the advantages because people generally aren't used to thinking outside of the structure of the society they live in.

Also, a lot of women are now insulated from the brutality of patriarchy, which might otherwise increase their interest in separatism. Because women are now able to hold jobs, own property, be out lesbians, etc. without too much trouble in many parts of the world, living in a more integrated fashion with men does not much bother them. The socioeconomically privileged aren't experiencing the more overt and urgent predatory male behavior that many homeless, incarcerated, disabled, and prostituted women face, and they aren't poor enough to experience the reality that all the advances in women's legal rights don't translate into stable, well-paying employment for many women (which drives the prostitution, poverty, etc. that make women vulnerable to male violence). Other legal advances have made men afraid of losing their jobs, going to prison, etc., so they may turn to misogynistic porn, abuse prostitutes or runaways, or even fly to Thailand to rape children instead of taking out their disgusting urges on women in the Western world. The male brutality has simply shifted out of view relative to places where females have no choice but to live with and marry men and be continually exposed. Some women don't even see feminism as necessary anymore.

In the United States especially, people tend to have a blindly individualistic perspective on society. Women don't view their position in society as connected to that of other women enough to prioritize sharing resources with women instead of with men, and doing so is not the norm and will therefore seem odd. People do their own thing, separately, and hope the government will fix everything instead of addressing it ourselves. Collective political action in day-to-day life is foreign to a lot of people; they view it as activism, as separate from how they live their personal lives. You do activism or volunteer and then you go home and live your life; you don't live activism 24/7.

And people tend to not think of women's welfare in terms of material resources. Politics is seen as a lot of talking, arguing, voting, and passing laws. People "raise awareness" (i.e., talk) rather than just putting some money in some poor woman's hand. Of course there are issues with simply giving out money, but my point is that increasing women's collective resources is far more effective than talking about women's issues.

I could go on. The bottom line is that lesbians aren't that different from other people in their worldviews.

Perhaps we should start viewing the opinions of others as exactly what they are: just opinions. Let's act less outraged and surprised when the opinions of others are different from ours. And most importantly, show RESPECT towards the opinions of others. by EpsteinIsHung in SaidIt

[–]vegan_dyke 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You seem to take it for granted that most people who join this site are sincere about having real productive discussions. The fact is that "free speech" is a rallying cry of bigots, and many of the people on Saidit will fit that description. A real discussion with a bigot is not likely to happen. There is no way to productively discuss arbitrary feelings of hate, disgust, etc. towards a demographic group; people just end up discussing dog whistles and empty, fallacious justifications for the bigotry. The bigots ignore arguments, insult other posters, switch to new bullshit arguments, etc., with no end in sight, because they don't really give a shit about whether what they are saying is true, accurate, sensible, or coherent.

The world would actually be better if people just openly admitted, "I hate X group" and left it at that instead of trying to hide it and/or justify it with all these bullshit "discussions;" people can clearly see there is little or nothing to discuss about "I hate..." and will be less likely to waste their time. Let there be venting spaces separate from discussion spaces.

Perhaps we should start viewing the opinions of others as exactly what they are: just opinions. Let's act less outraged and surprised when the opinions of others are different from ours. And most importantly, show RESPECT towards the opinions of others. by EpsteinIsHung in SaidIt

[–]vegan_dyke 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, "I hate trannies" does not promote any discussion; it's just airing an emotion. It's not even an opinion, really. People can see that and are going to respond appropriately.

If it's discussions you want, talk about the problems you have with "trannies" (as you've done here). [i]Maybe[/i] put the hatred part at the end of the post if you want a productive discussion (or leave it out entirely unless it's a space to discuss emotions). If you start off with emotions, it's not odd or inappropriate that people respond with emotions. And really, using "tranny" (a slur) and then complaining about people verbally abusing [i]you[/i]? I'm not even sure you are serious.

I will always protect black women first before anyone else. Not because I don't value other people but because there is hardly anyone else looking out for black women. It's worth any sacrifice! by [deleted] in TrueLesbians

[–]vegan_dyke 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That community is not that great anyways. What about using this community you have here to center non-white-privileged lesbians?