At what point does the government not make low birth rates a crime? by radicalcentrist in debatealtright

[–]Katelyn_Bell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’d like to surface this: “During a visit to a nursery in September, South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol admitted that more than $200 billion has been spent trying to boost the population over the past 16 years.”

So, doing what exactly? $200 billion dollars, even over 16 years, is an extraordinary number to not have some success metric tied to it. This is commonly the cost of solving the wrong problem.

The declining population as it relates to South Korea isn’t the problem that needs to be solved. That’s why none of y’all’s solutions, especially forced child-breeding/rearing, are going to make a dent in that population decline.

Decades and decades of subtle cultural poisoning by the West has perverted Korean culture. SK has a cultural obsession with appearance that permeates every facet of existence. Who wants to have a family in a culture where bus boys and electricians and plumbers have to also be attractive during the job application process? They have to attach photos to their job applications.

Ergo you may imagine that they have the highest rate of plastic surgery per capita in the world (by far) with 20% of surgical patients citing their parents were the reason they were undergoing the knife.

Every (mentally-balanced, sane, rational) parent knows that life is a gloriously messy process of slowly letting go of the things of youth. No surgery in the world is gonna keep your toddler young and adorable; in fact the very idea that this would even be wanted is abhorrent. In order to grow into parenthood, and adulthood, we have to let go of and surrender the things of youth.

Forcing them to breed at this point in their societal structure would be a force multiplier in creating more problems downstream.

A more logical hypothesis or strategy would be:

-remove access to all cosmetic procedures,

-begin a propaganda campaign that motherhood, stretch marks, and crying babies are the new sexy plastic k-pop boy band,

-pay off socialites and influencers to become obscenely family-oriented with content to the point of making followers feel FOMO for not having children,

-understand that in doing all of the above we decimate the economy of the entire country itself which currently provides 1/4th of the world’s plastic surgeries.

-pocket remaining 190 billion dollars and fund strategic breeding initiatives with targeted populations instead.



[–]Katelyn_Bell 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hiya. I’m not gen z, but I do have a background in healthcare SaaS technology. One important factor to consider is the integrity of this data, and I’d say it hilarious that they’re calling it a study. It’s an online survey … conducted by a healthcare EMR and billing software company … meant for content marketing to drive brand awareness. Link:

“When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see some things as good, other things become bad.”(Lao Tze) by GeorgeCarlin in quotes

[–]Katelyn_Bell 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I love this quote. I also think that the human tendency to perceive moral relativity from a continuum is an evolving practice. With patience, a deep dive into self-discovery is all it takes.

IIRC Taoism is rooted in ancient naturalist philosophy. We don’t need to dethrone what was once beautiful in order to recognize and appreciate beauty elsewhere. There is always more beauty. The quote itself isn’t about what is being said. More of a mirror into the process of personal transformation, because people only wake up when they stop agreeing to things that insult the soul.