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[–]satan666[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

You aren't even funny..

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Funny? I'm serious, thanks for posting this, I think you are going to help a lot of people

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The bottom line behind the church of Satan, if you take the time to read their materials like I have, is that they do not actually believe in any Satan but that they are simply mocking the religious systems.

The following video is of Anton Lacey, the founder of the church of Satan in San Francisco

https://youtu.be/8m3hHYtdegw

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

This is true. But I have no doubt that it's orchestrated by the real devil to false flag Christian virtues as Satanic.

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I play a lot, but I have witnessed the raw divine power of our creator. He can literally do any thing. He can bend the rules of the universe.

Satan orchestrates nothing, except that which he is allowed to orchestrate.

Evil knows, but It is the blind that can not see.

BTW, Islam plays a big role in this play.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

He's allowed to orchestrate basically everything. Even the laws of the universe are clearly his doing. Power and evil and bad always win here.

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are a well educated person, so I will hesitate to debate or even disagree with you.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a dangerous way to think.

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have read many of your comments here, and so it is obvious you are extremely well educated, especially about religion topics.

Call me mr danger, that's how I roll.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Obey or feel gods wrath isn't exactly a profound moral teaching

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not how it was framed by the original Christians. That was when the church took over. Another problem is that in the ancient languages most often it merely says "anger" rather than "wrath". And a lot of times "of God" was added later.

The Old Testament indeed sometimes had the "OBEY" attitude. That's because human authors perceived it that way. Everyone forgets that people wrote all these books and acts like God dropped them out of the sky. That's literally what I thought as a kid because that's how they make it sound. This is true of every single book. None are attributed to God or Jesus, even by tradition. Always one of their disciples.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Satan is far more forgiving than god. Don't piss that guy off or he'll go and smite you.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I can see where you're getting the second part from, but what makes you think Satan of all people is forgiving?

The ruthless god you speak of is actually the demiurge...who is identified as "Σατανας" in the Bible.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The question for me would be, why would I want Satan to be forgiving? God has a documented habit of being angry, jealous and genocidal. Satan gave free will, I find it unreasonable to assume that there be an expectation of forgiveness if this is misused.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That "God" is either filtered through human minds or Satan himself. The whole reason he gave us free will was not to help us, but rather because he knew it would be impossible for us to never choose evil, thus he would be able to condemn us indefinitely to reincarnate into his awful matrix world. That's why he is called Satan, because his main goal is to get everyone condemned. He is identified as "the god of this world".

Megathius had an interesting take on this. He believed in three main powers: God the Father, the "just" demiurge of the Jews, and the wicked pagan pantheon. If he was correct both the snake and the god in the Eden story could be bad. However I do find it more likely that it's simply meant to convey a message and not be broken down and have every little detail examined. It may have been a coded message against the law theology developing in Judaism, much like Revelation is coded so the Roman authorities couldn't understand it. And because of this it was able to survive. Then when it was possible to say it straightforward again, Paul wrote obsessively about how knowledge of good and evil comes from law and always leads to condemnation and death. You can either live by faith and mercy or die under law and condemnation. This wasn't new; the same ideas are found in the old prophets and wisdom literature, especially Jeremiah 7-8. The Torah is newer than those books, Ezra and the temple priests made it up to control people, with the help of certain angels and previously written fragments. Ezra also despised gentiles, the exact opposite of Paul. Paul's view makes perfect sense; Ezra's reeks of self-righteousness and hatred.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

However I do find it more likely that it's simply meant to convey a message and not be broken down and have every little detail examined.

I think this is how we are supposed to view all religions texts, with the same level of metaphorical interpretation as if reading a Socratean dialogue. We should assume that the god and the devil here are aspects of the human psyche, that we would remain in torment if knowing we have done wrong. By showing remorse and seeking forgiveness by the victim of your sin, you might be redeemed. When we pick apart ancient texts as though they are literal in every sense, we become deluded into thinking there is greater meaning beyond this simple truth. Be nice to one another and you will live freely and happily in this paradise we have on Earth. Don't do so and be destined to live in hell with all the other mischievous sinners around you.