The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang

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[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

all this is very easy for a Christian or Jew, by the way, but the believers in Scientism won't have that explanation!

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I mean personally I believe the universe is eternal, so obviously if there was a “Big Bang” it wasn’t THE beginning just the furthest back we can deduce.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Entropy increases in a closed system, so the eternal universe needs something outside the universe to keep it going.

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You think there’s “something outside the universe” that’s increasing the entropy of the universe?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Either the physical universe is a closed system or an open system. If it is a closed system, it couldn’t be eternal because of the heat death paradox, and so it had a beginning. If it is an open system, it’s eternity is explained by something outside it supplying energy so it doesn’t die a heat death.

Either way we look at a complete explanation for the physical universe resides outside itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_paradox

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Not being able to explain something about the universe will never prove there is something outside the universe. That’s a classic argument from ignorance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Learn logic dude. That was a reductio ad absurdem. That was also a dilemna. Might I recommend the book Socratic Logic?

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

a complete explanation for the physical universe resides outside itself

This conclusion to your reductio ad absurdem is the argument from ignorance, so we can conclude you made a mistake somewhere. How long is it going to take you to reread Socratic Logic?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The Laws of Thermodynamics shows that our universe can only be eternal if energy is added somehow. And if it is not eternal it had a beginning.

Do you believe the laws of thermodynamics don’t apply to this universe?

[–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

ELI5 why The Laws of Thermodynamics require the heat death of the universe.