Ukrainian Official Admits She Lied About Russians Committing Mass Rape to Convince Countries to Send More Weapons

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Interesting. I read the source they link to, which is:

https://lb.ua/news/2022/06/03/518875_lyudmila_denisova_azovtsi_z.html

According to that report, she was fired and will appeal the decision. I see nothing about rape, though systematic rapes of Ukrainians by Russians is well documented. The only case against Lyudmyla Denysova is that her information is being questioned, not that it's false. The the Verkhovna Rada is trying to make sure that this information is accurate, which is a good move by the Ukrainians, as they don't want to undermine their own credibility. What Denysova reports is already well-documented and she will continue working as an important journalist in the field.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

systematic rapes of Ukrainians by Russians is well documented

I don't see anything that couldn't be explained away as propaganda. They always do this shit to rally the peons.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Dude, why would you say such a thing? Ukrainian e-girlfriends will not be happy with your comment.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=systematic+rape+ukraine&t=h_&ia=web

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see no compelling evidence.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"He (Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk) also accuses her of having focused too much on media work, and on describing sexually motivated crimes in gratuitous detail as well as the raping of children in occupied territories. However, some of these accounts, he said, had not been verified, which had harmed Ukraine's reputation and distracted media attention from other, proven crimes and problems."

https://www.dw.com/en/why-ukraines-human-rights-chief-lyudmila-denisova-was-dismissed/a-62017920

It's a stretch to say she was lying to gain support, but she was not necessary using verifiable evidence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes - which is why she was fired. But in her defense: she was doing her job. This is why "human rights activists have criticized her dismissal." Ukraine has a substantial PR campaign that's successful because of journalists like her. Even if you don't like that kind of information war with Russia, it's essential against the Russian propaganda machine. Good on Ukraine to try to reduce some of the hyperbole, but it's part and parcel of what journalists have to describe in order to get attention for the attrocities committed by Russian troops, which are indeed documented many times over (even if she may have been too explicit in her descriptions, causing others to wonder about the veracity of the claims).

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It's fair to say that it's part of a journalists job, I'm sure there are other expectations in her position of Human Rights Chief though, politics is a different game. It's at a time when Ukraine has repeatedly been found to have sought publicity by enabling fake news. This was seen in the reports of the alleged killings of the Snake Island soldiers who had in fact been taken prisoner, the sunken battleship later found intact in port, and the Ghost of Kiev. Op-ed's are better left in the papers.

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good examples

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude she admitted she lied

This is the story that she admitted was not true

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-accused-of-raping-and-killing-a-one-year-old-child-says-ukraine-official