Russia-Ukraine live updates: To take Kyiv, Russia will have to 'kill all residents': Zelenskyy (So nice of him to volunteer the lives of his people)

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[–]Jackalope[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Tell me that you'd just drop the keys and walk away if your neighbor told you that they own your house now.

Certainly not. Zelensky however, preferred having his people killed to remaining neutral, so he essentially is at fault. For him to volunteer the lives of every citizen over something that he is responsible for is monstrous IMO.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is clearly nonsense.

Zelensky wouldn't be able to make that choice of he didn't have majority support in the first instance.

Even in the most pro-Russian cities the Ukrainians are fighting the invaders. They could easily have surrendered when the tanks started to roll in no matter what was going on in Kiev.

[–]Jackalope[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Zelensky wouldn't be able to make that choice of he didn't have majority support in the first instance.

I am not sure, you could be right. It seems to me that Presidents often have the power to make decisions that the majority does not support, but I am no expert on Ukrainian politics I will admit.

Even in the most pro-Russian cities the Ukrainians are fighting the invaders. They could easily have surrendered when the tanks started to roll in no matter what was going on in Kiev.

This is actually a very good point that I had not considered, so I appreciate you bringing this up. It is possible you are correct, and Zelensky really is representing the wishes of his people. I think I am just not willing to take the word of the MSM after their 2 year long campaign of misinformation, and this narrative sounds a little simplistic to me. Perhaps I am looking for holes where there are none, but in general I think a level of skepticism is healthy concerning our international engagements given our history of lies about Iraq, and the recent MSM covid propaganda.

[–]raven9 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No one can have any idea what is really going on in the face of the obvious wall of propaganda that is flooding both mainstream and social media. Who is fighting in the civilian areas? Who is attacking hospitals and schools? They say it is Russia. I'd say be skeptical.

[–]Jackalope[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't believe a word I hear from much of any source on this, it's an active propaganda war. I assume everything the government and media tell me is a complete lie until proven otherwise.