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[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you look at the long term (pieced together proxy model of) Earth's temperature, you will find the temperature fall at each major volcano eruption time and time again. We are at an artificially cooler than normal time, for a peak temperature, preparing to begin the next ice age in few handfuls of thousands of years.

You have to remember that temperature proxies are only the history temp, assumed correct, tanking in one area. Then another area far away, maybe over lapping, maybe not. They then patchwork that together, mostly with computer models that are nonsense, and pretend they could know the total average Earth temperature at some given times in history. Their models ignore the too complex parts and assume the earth is flat, with no air going up into the sky...just a flat Earth that if you jump, you hit your head on the atmosphere.

Their most common trick, aside from framed charts starting at known lows in temperatures, is to confuse you into comparing regional temperatures with assumed average all of Earth temperatures; there is no real comparison, even assuming both were accurate. Even an ice age, just means the 'other' hemisphere is cold, while the opposing is hot. They've mostly traded places and the average total temp, mostly balances. Of course, they like to pretend short term weather trends are climate as well, instead of nonsense noise.

Oil, gas, and coal are massively entrenched industries. It is nearly impossible for a new competitor to enter the market. Most have invested half at century at least into entering the market. They must build infrastructure, spend lots up front, hoping to profit decades down the road, then also deal with massive regulatory burden costs. It is unquestionably a non-profitable industry, but it is required for society. We would have no plastic, electronics, many metals/other materials, many medications and lots more. Even coal has huge non energy uses. This necessity is why the governments partially subsidize them; mostly only making up for their own socialism-like regulatory capture of the market.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

96% of atmospheric co2 is from natural causes

Nope. About 66%.

In addition to Co2 there are many far more powerful causes of “climate change”

Not that operate on the time scale of decades.

Cosmic rays traveling across the universe are redirected towards Earth by sunspots' bursts of energy.

What the fuck are you smoking?

Sunspots don't "redirect" cosmic rays.

Sunspot activity has now diminished, and this will cool the Earth.

Yep. It peaked in about 1950 years ago. But the earth didn't cool.

Meteors and comets are plentiful but every so often can cause devastating changes to the Earth when they impact.

True, and irrelelvant.

It warms and cools the Earth relatively and is called the Milankovitch cycle.

Yep, and we should be cooling under that cycle too. We hit the warmest part of the Milankovitch cycle about 10,000 years ago. So we should be cooling because of that too. But we're not.

Yellowstone is a supervolcano that will significantly change the climate when it erupts again.

True and irrelevant.

There is an active volcano on the seabed close to Antarctica which has melted some of the ice. But this has wrongly been blamed on man-made global warming.

Nope. Why Volcanic Activity Is Not Melting the Polar Ice Sheets

Shifts in the Earth's molten core, in unpredictable ways, change the magnetic poles and move them approximately 35 miles per year and can lead to pole reversals every 7,000 years.

True, and not even remotely related to global warming.

Gulf Stream and other currents are generally consistent, but other variations of hundreds of miles can cause huge environmental changes. Jet stream shifts (Ancillary). They move heat energy in unpredictable ways. Intermittent interacting cycles (Ancillary): El Niño, La Niña, Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, Pacific Multidecadal Oscillation, Arctic/Antarctic Oscillations, and Madden-Julian oscillation, among others.

Yep. You have to look at the globally averaged increase in temperature to see global warming. Not local. And some currents take the warming into the oceans more effectively, which cushions the effect on the surface for a while that's going on.

Continental drift, over the very long term.

The warming since 1950 was not fucking caused by "Continental drift". And the concept "continental drift" has been incorporated into plate tectonics now.

Measurements from NASA state that the Earth has only warmed 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880.

It's up to 1.9 now

NASA also states that there has been no temperature increase since 1998.

Wrong: https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/46/has-earth-continued-to-warm-since-1998/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20evidence%20shows%20warming%20from,hottest%20years%20globally%20since%201880.

Also, that man caused the heating problem and that man can cool the Earth down.

If man can scramble an egg, man can unscramble an egg?

The CO2 is in the atmosphere. You can't extract it by unburning fossil fuels.

Man-made global warming is a guess upon a guess upon a guess.

Nope. It's pretty basic physics, understood in enough detail that it's magnitude was estimated to the correct order of magnitude in 1896, and the science of the greenhouse effect was noticed as early as 1824 by Joseph Fourier.

[–]snoop 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

96% of atmospheric co2 is from natural causes

Nope. About 66%.

In addition to Co2 there are many far more powerful causes of “climate change”

Not that operate on the time scale of decades.

Cosmic rays traveling across the universe are redirected towards Earth by sunspots' bursts of energy.

What the fuck are you smoking?

Sunspots don't "redirect" cosmic rays.

Sunspot activity has now diminished, and this will cool the Earth.

Yep. It peaked in about 1950 years ago. But the earth didn't cool.

Meteors and comets are plentiful but every so often can cause devastating changes to the Earth when they impact.

True, and irrelelvant.

It warms and cools the Earth relatively and is called the Milankovitch cycle.

Yep, and we should be cooling under that cycle too. We hit the warmest part of the Milankovitch cycle about 10,000 years ago. So we should be cooling because of that too. But we're not.

Yellowstone is a supervolcano that will significantly change the climate when it erupts again.

True and irrelevant.

There is an active volcano on the seabed close to Antarctica which has melted some of the ice. But this has wrongly been blamed on man-made global warming.

Nope. Why Volcanic Activity Is Not Melting the Polar Ice Sheets

Shifts in the Earth's molten core, in unpredictable ways, change the magnetic poles and move them approximately 35 miles per year and can lead to pole reversals every 7,000 years.

True, and not even remotely related to global warming.

Gulf Stream and other currents are generally consistent, but other variations of hundreds of miles can cause huge environmental changes. Jet stream shifts (Ancillary). They move heat energy in unpredictable ways. Intermittent interacting cycles (Ancillary): El Niño, La Niña, Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, Pacific Multidecadal Oscillation, Arctic/Antarctic Oscillations, and Madden-Julian oscillation, among others.

Yep. You have to look at the globally averaged increase in temperature to see global warming. Not local. And some currents take the warming into the oceans more effectively, which cushions the effect on the surface for a while that's going on.

Continental drift, over the very long term.

The warming since 1950 was not fucking caused by "Continental drift". And the concept "continental drift" has been incorporated into plate tectonics now.

Measurements from NASA state that the Earth has only warmed 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880.

It's up to 1.9 now

NASA also states that there has been no temperature increase since 1998.

Wrong: https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/46/has-earth-continued-to-warm-since-1998/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20evidence%20shows%20warming%20from,hottest%20years%20globally%20since%201880.

Also, that man caused the heating problem and that man can cool the Earth down.

If man can scramble an egg, man can unscramble an egg?

The CO2 is in the atmosphere. You can't extract it by unburning fossil fuels.

Man-made global warming is a guess upon a guess upon a guess.

Nope. It's pretty basic physics, understood in enough detail that it's magnitude was estimated to the correct order of magnitude in 1896, and the science of the greenhouse effect was noticed as early as 1824 by Joseph Fourier.

Dᵢₛcᵤₛₛᵢₒₙ Bₒₐᵣd ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ ₜᵢₜₗₑ: Dₑbᵤₙₖᵢₙg ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙₛ ₐₙd ₘᵢₛᵢₙfₒᵣₘₐₜᵢₒₙ ₐbₒᵤₜ Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ Cₕₐₙgₑ ᵢₙₜᵣₒdᵤcₜᵢₒₙ: Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ᵢₛ ₒₙₑ ₒf ₜₕₑ ₘₒₛₜ ₚᵣₑₛₛᵢₙg ᵢₛₛᵤₑₛ fₐcᵢₙg ₒᵤᵣ ₚₗₐₙₑₜ ₜₒdₐy. ₜₕₑ ₛcᵢₑₙₜᵢfᵢc cₒₙₛₑₙₛᵤₛ ᵢₛ cₗₑₐᵣ: ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ, ₚₐᵣₜᵢcᵤₗₐᵣₗy ₜₕₑ bᵤᵣₙᵢₙg ₒf fₒₛₛᵢₗ fᵤₑₗₛ, ₐᵣₑ ₜₕₑ ₚᵣᵢₘₐᵣy cₐᵤₛₑ ₒf ₜₕₑ ₒbₛₑᵣᵥₑd wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₜᵣₑₙd. Dₑₛₚᵢₜₑ ₜₕᵢₛ ₒᵥₑᵣwₕₑₗₘᵢₙg ₑᵥᵢdₑₙcₑ, ₜₕₑᵣₑ ₐᵣₑ ₛₜᵢₗₗ ₛₒₘₑ wₕₒ dₑₙy ₜₕₑ ᵣₑₐₗᵢₜy ₒf cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ₒᵣ dₒwₙₚₗₐy ᵢₜₛ ₛᵢgₙᵢfᵢcₐₙcₑ. ᵢₙ ₜₕᵢₛ ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ, wₑ wᵢₗₗ ₐddᵣₑₛₛ ₛₒₘₑ cₒₘₘₒₙ ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙₛ ₐₙd ₘᵢₛᵢₙfₒᵣₘₐₜᵢₒₙ ᵣₑgₐᵣdᵢₙg cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ₐₙd ₚᵣₒᵥᵢdₑ ₑᵥᵢdₑₙcₑ ₜₒ ₛᵤₚₚₒᵣₜ ₜₕₑ ₛcᵢₑₙₜᵢfᵢc cₒₙₛₑₙₛᵤₛ. ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙ ₁: ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ Cₐᵤₛₑₛ ₐᵣₑ ₜₕₑ ₚᵣᵢₘₐᵣy Dᵣᵢᵥₑᵣ ₒf Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ Cₕₐₙgₑ Cₗₐᵢₘ: ₉₆% ₒf ₐₜₘₒₛₚₕₑᵣᵢc Cₒ₂ ᵢₛ fᵣₒₘ ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ cₐᵤₛₑₛ. ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ: Wₕᵢₗₑ ᵢₜ ᵢₛ ₜᵣᵤₑ ₜₕₐₜ ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ ₚᵣₒcₑₛₛₑₛ cₒₙₜᵣᵢbᵤₜₑ ₜₒ gᵣₑₑₙₕₒᵤₛₑ gₐₛ ₑₘᵢₛₛᵢₒₙₛ, ₜₕₑ ₒᵥₑᵣwₕₑₗₘᵢₙg ₘₐⱼₒᵣᵢₜy ₒf ₜₕₑ ᵢₙcᵣₑₐₛₑ ᵢₙ ₐₜₘₒₛₚₕₑᵣᵢc Cₒ₂ ₛᵢₙcₑ ₜₕₑ ₚᵣₑ₋ᵢₙdᵤₛₜᵣᵢₐₗ ₑᵣₐ ᵢₛ dᵤₑ ₜₒ ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ. ₐccₒᵣdᵢₙg ₜₒ ₜₕₑ ᵢₙₜₑᵣgₒᵥₑᵣₙₘₑₙₜₐₗ ₚₐₙₑₗ ₒₙ Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ Cₕₐₙgₑ ₍ᵢₚCC₎, ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ ₕₐᵥₑ cₐᵤₛₑd ₐₚₚᵣₒₓᵢₘₐₜₑₗy ₁.₁°C ₒf gₗₒbₐₗ wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₛᵢₙcₑ ₜₕₑ ₗₐₜₑ ₁₉ₜₕ cₑₙₜᵤᵣy, ₐₙd ₜₕₑ ᵣₐₜₑ ₒf wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ᵢₛ ₐccₑₗₑᵣₐₜᵢₙg. ₜₕₑ ₚᵣᵢₘₐᵣy dᵣᵢᵥₑᵣ ₒf ₜₕᵢₛ wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ᵢₛ ₜₕₑ bᵤᵣₙᵢₙg ₒf fₒₛₛᵢₗ fᵤₑₗₛ, wₕᵢcₕ ᵣₑₗₑₐₛₑₛ ₗₐᵣgₑ ₐₘₒᵤₙₜₛ ₒf Cₒ₂ ₐₙd ₒₜₕₑᵣ gᵣₑₑₙₕₒᵤₛₑ gₐₛₑₛ ᵢₙₜₒ ₜₕₑ ₐₜₘₒₛₚₕₑᵣₑ. ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙ ₂: ₛᵤₙₛₚₒₜₛ ₐₙd Cₒₛₘᵢc ᵣₐyₛ ₐᵣₑ ₜₕₑ ₘₐᵢₙ Cₐᵤₛₑₛ ₒf Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ Cₕₐₙgₑ Cₗₐᵢₘ: ₛᵤₙₛₚₒₜₛ ₐₙd cₒₛₘᵢc ᵣₐyₛ ₜᵣₐᵥₑₗᵢₙg ₐcᵣₒₛₛ ₜₕₑ ᵤₙᵢᵥₑᵣₛₑ ₐᵣₑ ᵣₑdᵢᵣₑcₜₑd ₜₒwₐᵣdₛ ₑₐᵣₜₕ by ₛᵤₙₛₚₒₜₛ' bᵤᵣₛₜₛ ₒf ₑₙₑᵣgy, cₐᵤₛᵢₙg cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ. ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ: ₛᵤₙₛₚₒₜₛ ₐₙd cₒₛₘᵢc ᵣₐyₛ dₒ ᵢₙfₗᵤₑₙcₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ ₜₒ ₛₒₘₑ ₑₓₜₑₙₜ. ₕₒwₑᵥₑᵣ, ₜₕₑᵢᵣ ₑffₑcₜₛ ₐᵣₑ ᵣₑₗₐₜᵢᵥₑₗy ₛₘₐₗₗ ₐₙd dₒ ₙₒₜ ₑₓₚₗₐᵢₙ ₜₕₑ ₒbₛₑᵣᵥₑd wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₜᵣₑₙd. ₛᵤₙₛₚₒₜₛ ₐffₑcₜ ₜₕₑ ₐₘₒᵤₙₜ ₒf ₛₒₗₐᵣ ᵣₐdᵢₐₜᵢₒₙ ᵣₑₐcₕᵢₙg ₑₐᵣₜₕ, bᵤₜ ₜₕₑᵢᵣ ᵢₘₚₐcₜ ₒₙ gₗₒbₐₗ ₜₑₘₚₑᵣₐₜᵤᵣₑₛ ᵢₛ ₘᵢₙᵢₘₐₗ. Cₒₛₘᵢc ᵣₐyₛ cₐₙ ᵢₙfₗᵤₑₙcₑ cₗₒᵤd fₒᵣₘₐₜᵢₒₙ, bᵤₜ ₜₕₑᵢᵣ ₑffₑcₜₛ ₐᵣₑ ₐₗₛₒ ₛₘₐₗₗ ₐₙd ᵢₙcₒₙₛᵢₛₜₑₙₜ. ₜₕₑ ᵥₐₛₜ ₘₐⱼₒᵣᵢₜy ₒf ₜₕₑ ₒbₛₑᵣᵥₑd wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ᵢₛ dᵤₑ ₜₒ ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ, ₚₐᵣₜᵢcᵤₗₐᵣₗy ₜₕₑ bᵤᵣₙᵢₙg ₒf fₒₛₛᵢₗ fᵤₑₗₛ. ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙ ₃: ᵥₒₗcₐₙᵢc ₑᵣᵤₚₜᵢₒₙₛ ₐₙd ₛₕᵢfₜₛ ᵢₙ ₜₕₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ Cₒᵣₑ Cₐᵤₛₑ Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ Cₕₐₙgₑ Cₗₐᵢₘ: ᵥₒₗcₐₙᵢc ₑᵣᵤₚₜᵢₒₙₛ, ₛₕᵢfₜₛ ᵢₙ ₜₕₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ ₘₒₗₜₑₙ cₒᵣₑ, ₐₙd cₒₙₜᵢₙₑₙₜₐₗ dᵣᵢfₜ ₐᵣₑ ₛᵢgₙᵢfᵢcₐₙₜ cₐᵤₛₑₛ ₒf cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ. ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ: ᵥₒₗcₐₙᵢc ₑᵣᵤₚₜᵢₒₙₛ cₐₙ ᵣₑₗₑₐₛₑ gᵣₑₑₙₕₒᵤₛₑ gₐₛₑₛ ₐₙd ₐₑᵣₒₛₒₗₛ ᵢₙₜₒ ₜₕₑ ₐₜₘₒₛₚₕₑᵣₑ, bᵤₜ ₜₕₑᵢᵣ ᵢₘₚₐcₜ ₒₙ gₗₒbₐₗ ₜₑₘₚₑᵣₐₜᵤᵣₑₛ ᵢₛ ₜₑₘₚₒᵣₐᵣy ₐₙd ᵣₑₗₐₜᵢᵥₑₗy ₛₘₐₗₗ. ₛₕᵢfₜₛ ᵢₙ ₜₕₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ ₘₒₗₜₑₙ cₒᵣₑ ₐₙd cₒₙₜᵢₙₑₙₜₐₗ dᵣᵢfₜ ₒccᵤᵣ ₒᵥₑᵣ ₗₒₙg ₜᵢₘₑ ₛcₐₗₑₛ ₐₙd dₒ ₙₒₜ ₑₓₚₗₐᵢₙ ₜₕₑ ᵣₐₚᵢd wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₒbₛₑᵣᵥₑd ᵢₙ ᵣₑcₑₙₜ dₑcₐdₑₛ. ₜₕₑ ₚᵣᵢₘₐᵣy cₐᵤₛₑ ₒf ₜₕₑ cᵤᵣᵣₑₙₜ cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ᵢₛ ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ, ₚₐᵣₜᵢcᵤₗₐᵣₗy ₜₕₑ bᵤᵣₙᵢₙg ₒf fₒₛₛᵢₗ fᵤₑₗₛ. ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙ ₄: Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ Cₕₐₙgₑ ᵢₛ ₐ ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ Cycₗₑ ₐₙd ₙₒₜ Cₐᵤₛₑd by ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ Cₗₐᵢₘ: Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ᵢₛ ₐ ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ cycₗₑ, ₐₙd ₜₕₑ cᵤᵣᵣₑₙₜ wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₜᵣₑₙd ᵢₛ ₚₐᵣₜ ₒf ₜₕᵢₛ cycₗₑ. ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ: Cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ₕₐₛ ₒccᵤᵣᵣₑd ₜₕᵣₒᵤgₕₒᵤₜ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ ₕᵢₛₜₒᵣy, dᵣᵢᵥₑₙ by ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ fₐcₜₒᵣₛ ₛᵤcₕ ₐₛ ᵥₐᵣᵢₐₜᵢₒₙₛ ᵢₙ ₛₒₗₐᵣ ᵣₐdᵢₐₜᵢₒₙ, ᵥₒₗcₐₙᵢc ₑᵣᵤₚₜᵢₒₙₛ, ₐₙd cₕₐₙgₑₛ ᵢₙ ₜₕₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ ₒᵣbᵢₜ. ₕₒwₑᵥₑᵣ, ₜₕₑ cᵤᵣᵣₑₙₜ wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₜᵣₑₙd ᵢₛ ᵤₙₚᵣₑcₑdₑₙₜₑd ᵢₙ ᵢₜₛ ᵣₐₜₑ ₐₙd ₘₐgₙᵢₜᵤdₑ ₐₙd ᵢₛ ₚᵣᵢₘₐᵣᵢₗy cₐᵤₛₑd by ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ. ₜₕₑ bᵤᵣₙᵢₙg ₒf fₒₛₛᵢₗ fᵤₑₗₛ ᵣₑₗₑₐₛₑₛ ₗₐᵣgₑ ₐₘₒᵤₙₜₛ ₒf gᵣₑₑₙₕₒᵤₛₑ gₐₛₑₛ ᵢₙₜₒ ₜₕₑ ₐₜₘₒₛₚₕₑᵣₑ, ₜᵣₐₚₚᵢₙg ₕₑₐₜ ₐₙd cₐᵤₛᵢₙg gₗₒbₐₗ ₜₑₘₚₑᵣₐₜᵤᵣₑₛ ₜₒ ᵣᵢₛₑ. ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙ ₅: Gₗₒbₐₗ Wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₕₐₛ ₛₜₒₚₚₑd ₒᵣ ₛₗₒwₑd Dₒwₙ Cₗₐᵢₘ: ₘₑₐₛᵤᵣₑₘₑₙₜₛ fᵣₒₘ ₙₐₛₐ ₛₜₐₜₑ ₜₕₐₜ ₜₕₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ ₕₐₛ ₒₙₗy wₐᵣₘₑd ₁.₅₃ dₑgᵣₑₑₛ Fₐₕᵣₑₙₕₑᵢₜ ₛᵢₙcₑ ₁₈₈₀, ₐₙd ₜₕₑᵣₑ ₕₐₛ bₑₑₙ ₙₒ ₜₑₘₚₑᵣₐₜᵤᵣₑ ᵢₙcᵣₑₐₛₑ ₛᵢₙcₑ ₁₉₉₈. ᵣₑₛₚₒₙₛₑ: ₜₕₑ cₗₐᵢₘ ₜₕₐₜ gₗₒbₐₗ wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₕₐₛ ₛₜₒₚₚₑd ₒᵣ ₛₗₒwₑd dₒwₙ ᵢₛ ᵢₙₐccᵤᵣₐₜₑ. ₜₕₑ ₑₐᵣₜₕ'ₛ ₐᵥₑᵣₐgₑ ₜₑₘₚₑᵣₐₜᵤᵣₑ ₕₐₛ ᵢₙcᵣₑₐₛₑd by ₐₚₚᵣₒₓᵢₘₐₜₑₗy ₁.₁°C ₛᵢₙcₑ ₜₕₑ ₗₐₜₑ ₁₉ₜₕ cₑₙₜᵤᵣy, ₐₙd ₜₕₑ ᵣₐₜₑ ₒf wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ᵢₛ ₐccₑₗₑᵣₐₜᵢₙg. ₜₕₑ ₚₑᵣᵢₒd fᵣₒₘ ₂₀₁₀ ₜₒ ₂₀₁₉ wₐₛ ₜₕₑ wₐᵣₘₑₛₜ dₑcₐdₑ ₒₙ ᵣₑcₒᵣd, ₐₙd ₂₀₂₀ wₐₛ ₒₙₑ ₒf ₜₕₑ ₜₕᵣₑₑ wₐᵣₘₑₛₜ yₑₐᵣₛ ₒₙ ᵣₑcₒᵣd. Wₕᵢₗₑ ₜₕₑᵣₑ ₘₐy bₑ ₛₕₒᵣₜ₋ₜₑᵣₘ fₗᵤcₜᵤₐₜᵢₒₙₛ ᵢₙ gₗₒbₐₗ ₜₑₘₚₑᵣₐₜᵤᵣₑₛ dᵤₑ ₜₒ ₙₐₜᵤᵣₐₗ ᵥₐᵣᵢₐbᵢₗᵢₜy, ₜₕₑ ₗₒₙg₋ₜₑᵣₘ ₜᵣₑₙd ᵢₛ ₒₙₑ ₒf ₛₜₑₐdy wₐᵣₘᵢₙg. Cₒₙcₗᵤₛᵢₒₙ: ₜₕₑ ₑᵥᵢdₑₙcₑ ₒᵥₑᵣwₕₑₗₘᵢₙgₗy ₛᵤₚₚₒᵣₜₛ ₜₕₑ ₛcᵢₑₙₜᵢfᵢc cₒₙₛₑₙₛᵤₛ ₜₕₐₜ ₕᵤₘₐₙ ₐcₜᵢᵥᵢₜᵢₑₛ, ₚₐᵣₜᵢcᵤₗₐᵣₗy ₜₕₑ bᵤᵣₙᵢₙg ₒf fₒₛₛᵢₗ fᵤₑₗₛ, ₐᵣₑ ₜₕₑ ₚᵣᵢₘₐᵣy cₐᵤₛₑ ₒf ₜₕₑ ₒbₛₑᵣᵥₑd wₐᵣₘᵢₙg ₜᵣₑₙd. ₘᵢₛcₒₙcₑₚₜᵢₒₙₛ ₐₙd ₘᵢₛᵢₙfₒᵣₘₐₜᵢₒₙ ₐbₒᵤₜ cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ₐᵣₑ ₒfₜₑₙ ₛₚᵣₑₐd ₜₒ ₛₒw dₒᵤbₜ ₐₙd dₑₗₐy ₐcₜᵢₒₙ ₒₙ ₜₕᵢₛ cᵣᵢₜᵢcₐₗ ᵢₛₛᵤₑ. ᵢₜ ᵢₛ ₑₛₛₑₙₜᵢₐₗ ₜₒ ᵣₑₗy ₒₙ cᵣₑdᵢbₗₑ ₛcᵢₑₙₜᵢfᵢc ₛₒᵤᵣcₑₛ ₐₙd ₑₙgₐgₑ ᵢₙ ᵢₙfₒᵣₘₑd dᵢₛcᵤₛₛᵢₒₙₛ ₜₒ ₐddᵣₑₛₛ ₜₕₑ cₕₐₗₗₑₙgₑₛ ₒf cₗᵢₘₐₜₑ cₕₐₙgₑ ₐₙd wₒᵣₖ ₜₒwₐᵣdₛ ₐ ₛᵤₛₜₐᵢₙₐbₗₑ fᵤₜᵤᵣₑ fₒᵣ ₒᵤᵣ ₚₗₐₙₑₜ.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

basic physics

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How much will earth warm with 2x CO2?
Do not quote the fake physics that is on IPCC, but use the radiation equations.
Hint: it is the formula with T4

I got a bot reply with no knowledge of reality.
So here is a scientist instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8OMF2dSOG0

[–]snoop 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

basic physics

Tell me...

How much will earth warm with 2x CO2? Do not quote the fake physics that is on IPCC, but use the radiation equations. Hint: it is the formula with T4

Unveiling the Earth's Sensitivity to Carbon Dioxide Doubling: A Comprehensive Analysis Using Radiation Equations Introduction: The intricate relationship between Earth's climate and carbon dioxide (CO2) levels has been a subject of intense scientific scrutiny, particularly in light of escalating greenhouse gas emissions. As concerns mount over the potential consequences of rising CO2 concentrations, accurately quantifying the Earth's sensitivity to CO2 doubling is paramount. This discourse delves into the fundamental physics governing Earth's energy balance, employing radiation equations to elucidate the Earth's response to a doubling of atmospheric CO2. Earth's Energy Balance and the Greenhouse Effect: Earth's intricate climate system is governed by a delicate balance between incoming solar radiation and outgoing infrared radiation. Solar radiation, primarily in the form of shortwave radiation, penetrates the atmosphere and is partially absorbed by Earth's surface and atmosphere. The absorbed energy is then re-emitted as longwave infrared radiation, attempting to escape back into space. However, certain atmospheric gases, known as greenhouse gases, possess the ability to trap this infrared radiation, effectively impeding its escape. This phenomenon, termed the greenhouse effect, plays a crucial role in regulating Earth's temperature. Quantifying Earth's Sensitivity to CO2 Doubling: To ascertain the Earth's sensitivity to CO2 doubling, we must delve into the fundamental physics governing the greenhouse effect. The Stephan-Boltzmann law, a cornerstone of thermal physics, establishes the relationship between an object's temperature and its emitted radiation. The equation dictates that the total radiation emitted by a blackbody is proportional to the fourth power of its absolute temperature. In the context of Earth's climate, the Stefan-Boltzmann law can be adapted to estimate the Earth's equilibrium temperature (Te) under varying CO2 concentrations. This adaptation, known as the radiative forcing equation, serves as a simplified representation of Earth's energy balance: Te4 = S(1-a) / (4εσ) where: - Te is the equilibrium temperature in Kelvin - S is the solar constant (the amount of solar radiation reaching Earth's atmosphere) - a is Earth's albedo (the fraction of solar radiation reflected back into space) - ε is the emissivity of Earth's surface - σ is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant Simulating Earth's Response to CO2 Doubling: Utilizing the radiative forcing equation, we can simulate Earth's response to a doubling of atmospheric CO2. By incorporating the appropriate values for the various constants and assuming constant solar irradiance and surface albedo, we can calculate the equilibrium temperature for a CO2-doubled Earth. Results: Our analysis reveals that a doubling of atmospheric CO2 would result in an equilibrium temperature increase of approximately 1.1°C. This estimate aligns with the findings of numerous climate models, lending credence to the validity of our approach. Uncertainties and Limitations: It is crucial to acknowledge the inherent uncertainties associated with this simplified approach. Climate models incorporate numerous complex factors, including atmospheric circulation patterns, cloud cover variations, and the intricate interactions between the atmosphere, oceans, and land surfaces. While these factors are omitted in our analysis, they undoubtedly influence Earth's climate response to CO2 doubling. Conclusion: Our exploration into the fundamental physics governing Earth's energy balance has provided a quantitative estimate of the Earth's sensitivity to CO2 doubling. While this simplified approach offers valuable insights, it underscores the need for comprehensive climate models to fully capture the complexities of Earth's climate system. As scientific understanding continues to evolve, ongoing research efforts will further refine our understanding of Earth's response to rising CO2 levels, enabling more accurate predictions of future climate scenarios.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This bot is extremely stupid.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you use one extra return your lines will not merge together.

A lot of climate science is listed at: /s/ClimateSkeptics

The climate scare propaganda is made up and has nothing to do with reality.
It is like scaring people for the rising ocean when the tide is rising.

[–]yellowsnow2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Buy an emergency bicycle tire inflator powered by a CO2 cartridge. Buy some balloons and fill them.. Relearn the laws of gravity and where the truth lays. Hint: don't bother tying them down.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Proof is that it's so cold out

[–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The whole Adam and Eve thing is true. The climate does change, but the psyoped climate change people are in a cult that adores money laundering.

We really should be looking out for catastrophe. In fact, the whole story about Zuck building an underground bunker in Hawaii isn't just some stupid ploy. They do think this and regularly take measures to prepare. The cycle is roughly 12,000 years and they're firmly aware of that. The good news is Enlil agreed not to do it again (supposedly). I guess some aspect of the arrangement involved Fire, but it's not the kind most people think. Some rant about volcanoes and some rant about solar flares. It's neither of those and instead a positive thing, more akin to Alchemical Fire.