Why Opposing Zionism Is Not Anti-Semitic: The Christian Roots of Zionism

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[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (16 children)

Many times antisemitics use opposing zionism as a cover to be antisemitic and express their antisemitic beliefs. When they are called out on their BS they go on to say, "I don't oppose Jewish people, I oppose Zionism, Zionism is bad, Jewish people are good".

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    [–]DaijoubuYabai 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    Yes. And there are plenty of Jewish people who oppose the ways that the Israeli government is behaving these days.

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    80% + in Israel do not.

    [–]DaijoubuYabai 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Agree about approx. 80 percent ... and lower percentage outside of Israel.

    But my point is that "Jewish" is not equivalent to "Zionist".

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Neither jewish nor zionist is good

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, true. But the amount of progressive anti-Zionist Zionist Jews I've seen hurts my head.

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    I am 100% anti-Judaism because judaism is anti-Christ. I am not anti-Semitic because Jews are not semitic and Palestinians and Arabs are. In fact, Likudnik Jews are some of thr most anti-Semitic people to ever exist.

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    You cannot be jewish without being antisemitic and you cannot be jewish without being a racist. To be an antiracist is to be anti jewish.

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Jews are anti-Semitic for they even had to hijack the word for themselves at the expense of Semitic Arabs and the Palestinian plight. Every Jew that uses this misnomer is furthering the Zionist cause knowingly or unknowingly.

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Indeed, they are liars and are doing the work of thy father, the devil.

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I have however seen a few ethnic 'Jew' edomites claim that the idea that 'Jews' may not be semitic might be true. These edomites are usually Humanists and are closer to Christ than the religous rabbinic Pharisees that hate Him.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Ashkenazi Jews:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
    Jews in Central Europe 1881 map:
        https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juden_1881.JPG

    Caucasian race:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
      Aryan race:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
      Semitic people:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people (a suspiciously short article, half about anti-Semitism)
    Global Meyers Konversations-Lexikon (1885–1890) ethnographic map:
        https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Meyers_map.jpg

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    There are several kinds of people who are against Zionism:

    • Anti-Semites, for whatever reason(s), legit or not
    • Nazis, neo-Nazis, and political groups that include anti-Semitism
    • Christians and Catholics who carry a grudge for stuff in the Bible
    • Palestinians suffering under Israeli oppression and extermination
    • Jews who seek peace and don't buy into the bullshit war mongering propaganda
    • Journalists who seek peace and don't buy into the bullshit war mongering propaganda
    • Historians who seek peace and don't buy into the bullshit war mongering propaganda
    • Other people who seek peace and don't buy into the bullshit war mongering propaganda
    • People who have looked into the bullshit Holocaust narrative
    • People who have looked into the bullshit Jewish victimhood narrative
    • People who have looked into the bullshit Jewish supremacy religion and culture
    • People who see how Zionists control all global business and industry, including banks, media, manufacturing, distribution, and government
    • People who see their culture and government infiltrated and corrupted by Zionists (not just Jews)
    • People who have been smeared as or labeled as or lumped into any or all of the above

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Jews are not Semitic, stop using that hijacked word. They created modern Hebrew language and pillaged and plundered semitic natives off their land, destroying their livelihood -- murdering and raping them -- to create Israel LLC.

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Unfortunately it's the common parlance twisted by (((them))) and their media, so that's how I've used the term. I agree that many Jews are not Semitic. Perhaps most? I have no idea how many Jews are actually Semitic - do you know?

    How would you improve my list? Feel free to overhaul it from scratch if you like.

    [–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    This may be the right thing to say on a mainstream forum where most people are liberal morons. But this isn't the optimal response here on SaidIt. The right response here is:

    Do you support nationalism? If yes, then you must support Zionism since Zionism is nothing more than Jewish nationalism. If you support nationalism but not Zionism then you are a hypocrite.