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[–]Dr_Bukkake 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And yet the self hating whites still help them because they believe all they want is equality when they really want revenge. I hope they make it quick it for them when they inevitably get turned on and scream “but I’m one of the good ones.”

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Its called muggings. There are about ten thousand instances a year of it. Blacks lynch whites daily.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is a new meaning of Lynch.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Youre right. They typically didn’t rob blacks they were lynching, that’s just tacky.

[–]filbs111 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Literally impossible. Lynching = hanging from a tree + privilege + power.

[–]mongre 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah....that's how it's going to go. These people have no idea what they're asking for but I do know sooner or later, they're going to get it. It's only a matter of time before it's open season.

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is exactly what is happening to chauvin.

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

Their taking over, well blacks and Hispanics. My money is on Hispanics as they are in control currently.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Control of what?

[–]LesbianOutlaw 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

Hispanics are smarter than blacks and there’s more of them. It’s actually good news when they move in en masse because they run the blacks out. Just look at cities like El Paso, Albuquerque and the population shift of Los Angeles.

[–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They also force all others asl well, I grew up in whittier back in the erly 70's in this house. Now it's 100 % Hispanic and the high school looks like a prison with armed guards or cops. El Paso, Albuquerque and so many other citys have changed.

https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/the-reconquista-of-california/

https://www.lowellsun.com/2006/05/07/reconquista-is-real-2/

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Hispanics are smarter than blacks

Hey, most people just stick to implicit racism.

But good ole lesbianoutlaw is here, pushing those boundaries.

Just FYI intelligence is a function of the brain, nutrition, experiences and education. Black is a function of skin melanin. They're different things.

[–]NodeIndependent 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Black skin and poor brain function are characteristics of that race. You may think of several others if you visualize their physical appearance, or peruse the FBI crime statistics.

[–]LesbianOutlaw 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

This is SaidIt. We don’t have to sugarcoat things here. Blacks are objectively the lowest IQ of the races. There was plenty of data on it before bleeding hearts hijacked scientific institutions and even the discoverer of the DNA double helix arrived at the same conclusion and was cancel cultured over it.

Skin color is not the only way the races differ. Look up lactose intolerance rates and organ transplant requirements. If these aspects can have differences there is no logical reason why the brain structure couldn’t have genetic differences. Evolution does not care about your feelings.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Blacks are objectively the lowest IQ of the races.

Not really objective. And not useful to say, because blacks includes some of the most intelligent Americans there have been.

DNA double helix arrived at the same conclusion and was cancel cultured over it.

Yeah James Watson was a bit of a racist. Oh well. We're generally more educated about that now.

Skin color is not the only way the races differ. Look up lactose intolerance rates and organ transplant requirements.

Skin colour is what defines "black" though. There's not a lot of Americans that pure African. Because keeping slaves means you get to rape them all the time.

If these aspects can have differences there is no logical reason why the brain structure couldn’t have genetic differences.

It's biologically plausible. Intelligence is significantly heritable. But it's not proven, despite what Watson used to say. And, this is important: It's not useful to say.

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Not really objective. And not useful to say, because blacks includes some of the most intelligent Americans there have been.

Objectively, they are about one standard deviation lower than European on average Posting a few examples of high scoring black people is meaningless.

Yes decent evidence is coming out that the cause of the difference between groups is down to biology. There's a paper around looking at genes associated with higher education in gentiles and Jews, and it shows the Jewish advantage is down to genes.

It's also been demonstrated that it's perfectly easy to cause genes for IQ to vary with environmental selection. The welfare state in Iceland has caused a measurable decrease in genes for higher ed in just a few decades.

Evolution does not stop.

There's no biological reason for cognitive ability to be the same.

There's no evidence from the Scarr Rowe studies in adults that SES effects group IQs.

Human brains are different enough between ancestries that that you can tell someone's ancestry with an MRI.

Basically there's more. But that will do for now.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Objectively, they are about one standard deviation lower than European on average Posting a few examples of high scoring black people is meaningless.

1) IQ tests aren't objective. They're steeped in culture.

2) The Flynn effect is about 1 standard deviation since the middle of last century. Area you claiming that that's evolution?

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

IQ tests aren't objective. They're steeped in culture.

This is a standard whine. Actually the less culturally biased the tests where the greater the gap turned out to be. And black Americans are raised in the same culture. This isn't like the 30s where they where asking the question 'car is to race as yacht is to regatta. They've been redesigned a lot. A lot are non verbal pattern recognition.

Same pattern for the 1sd shortfall in every test.

2) The Flynn effect is about 1 standard deviation since the middle of last century. Area you claiming that that's evolution?

People who don't know what the Flynn effect is always think that's a trump card.

It's mostly the result of much better nutrition and better childhood health, most likely through vaccination programs and clean water and the welfare state. These are civic programs that applied to everyone. We aren't getting kids starving unless their carers are abusing them.

I'd like to point out, yet again, that attempts to show parental SES impacts IQ in adult offspring have been pretty relentless in showing that being in even the lowest SES makes no difference to adult IQ scores.

Our welfare states are working. Yay.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is a standard whine.

Good. People should mention the true arguments.

Actually the less culturally biased the tests where the greater the gap turned out to be.

Can you link me to one of the studies based on these less culturally biased tests?

A lot are non verbal pattern recognition.

There's evidence from the 70s that kids use verbal strategies for nonverbal reasoning tests.

For Ss who received no special training there were significant race differences on the analogies test (p < .001), but for those who received the training there were not (p < .05). Results suggest that a significant proportion of observed race differences on Level II tasks may be attributable to a failure of many Blacks to use spontaneously an efficient verbal strategy rather than a genetic reasoning deficit.

It's mostly the result of much better nutrition and better childhood health, most likely through vaccination programs and clean water and the welfare state.

So since black Americans are still substantially an underclass, you would expect their IQ to catch up with the improved nutrition and better childhood health that comes with rising out of poverty.

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Good. People should mention the true arguments

Yes but it's not correct. Every attempt to show bias in the testing has failed.

Can you link me to one of the studies based on these less culturally biased tests?

Look up Ravens progressive matrices.

So since black Americans are still substantially an underclass, you would expect their IQ to catch up with the improved nutrition and better childhood health that comes with rising out of poverty.

No.

As I have pointed out to you before, there's no evidence that western poverty, with its vaccinations, free education and adequate all round nutrition causes lower IQ than in western rich families.

In fact every study into this possibility that looked at adults failed to find any evidence of it at all. It's called the Scarr Rowe effect.

Which you don't seem to be processing.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you think you can divide a population and place half of it in equatorial africa for 50,000 years and another in ice age eurasia, and the only divergent traits you will get have to do with pigmentation, you do not have a realistic view of evolution. How about size of brain case for starters?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you think you can divide a population and place half of it in equatorial africa for 50,000 years and another in ice age eurasia, and the only divergent traits you will get have to do with pigmentation, you do not have a realistic view of evolution. How about size of brain case for starters?

Weird place to start. Which group would you expect of have the more selection pressure on head circumference, and would the selection pressure be towards smaller or larger ones?

The equatorial group would be selected for higher melanin, because the more direct sun comes with a greater risk of skin cancer. Although with the ozone hole at the pole, this may be weaker than in the past. The polar group would be selected for less melanin and narrow eyes and more adipose tissue in the eyelids. This is because vitamin D insufficiency is a risk as is loss of sight from frostbite of the eyeball.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not really a weird place to start if we’re talking about IQ. People living in cold weather climates like whites and east asians have larger craniums— its not a thermodynamic penalty in a cold environment to have a large head.

Africans and Australoids have a cranial volume about 10% smaller on average relative to BMI.

UV destroys folate which results in birth defects. Thats the big selective pressure there , not skin cancer.

Diet is also a selector for skin color. Hunter gatherer diets are probably higher in vitamin D than a grain eater’s. Northern Eurasians probably got a good deal whiter since they started eating grain. Inuits are not that light if you notice. They do have a pretty high IQ for a hunter gatherer society though. About 95 or so I think, which is basically like an Irishman.

Interesting point you make about epicanthic folds but then how do you explain Khoisan.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

intelligence is a function of the brain, nutrition, experiences and education

I feel I should point out that the studies looking for SES (or race) impacting IQ in adults have all shown virtually no effect.

Adult IQs are typically about 80% down to genetic differences. Environment makes very little difference. At least in the west.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is from separated twin studies?

They would at least have got sufficient nutrition.

There's something significant about environment in the West because IQs today are about 15 points higher than in the middle of last century.

The genetics are the same, only the environment was different. And that's effect is greater that the current difference between races, which is why it's not proven that the races are different: the timing of that increase could be simply a few generations later.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No they aren't from separated twin studies. Same family studies.

They are comparing the heritability of IQ between the lowest SES and the highest. And a couple of studies chucked race into the mix.

There was no difference in heritability. So the claim that lower SES causes lower IQ through poor environment (in western welfare states) is not supported.

The egalitarian supporters were pinning their hopes and reputation on these studies show heritability was lower in adults, because it was lower in kids. They still push this argument, because most people don't know that heritability varies vastly by age. It's about 0.2 in little kids and 0.8 post 18.

something significant about environment in the West because IQs today are about 15 points higher than in the middle of last century.

The average poor kid today has a significantly better chance of surviving childhood diseases than a rich kid a hundred years ago. The essential nutrition of a poor kid and a rich kid are both above the level to maximize brain development. If someone's kid is starving to death in the west is probably because of child abuse.

It's not well known but severe illness in kids lower IQ, and height. Go back a few years and surviving severe illnesses like measles and whooping cough was standard for adults.

And the genetics are not the same. I've seen at least a couple of papers showing genes for higher ed dropping off in the west in the past few decades (welfare state) and one study looking at the same that shows strong selective pressure on said genes since the paleolithic in Europe.

And yes we are seeing group IQ dropping slowly as a result. The Flynn effect is in reverse.

I'd so like to point out that software to calculate height based on a DNA sample that works on Eurasian males doesn't work on African males, because some different genes are involved. Same thing applies to IQ. ,Which does rather screw with "homogeneous for brain affecting genes" claim.

It's also true that the brain's folding pattern and internal structures vary by ancestry, as do the frequency if various genes known to affect brain function and intelligence.

We aren't a homogeneous species fir a whole range of things.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The average poor kid today has a significantly better chance of surviving childhood diseases than a rich kid a hundred years ago.

Yeah, but the IQ has increased by about 3 points per decade since the 1950s and 1960s as well. Well into the antibiotic era.

I've seen at least a couple of papers showing genes for higher ed dropping off in the west in the past few decades

Okay. News to me that we have higher education genes. Can you point me to some of these papers?

And yes we are seeing group IQ dropping slowly as a result. The Flynn effect is in reverse.

Maybe. That's still controversial. (see The Flynn Effect: A Meta-analysis,Trahan et al, . (2014) Psychological Bulletin, 140(5), 1332–1360, for example)

We aren't a homogeneous species fir a whole range of things.

Right but there's not a lot of genetic variation in humans compared to other animals. And claims that there are established differences in intelligence between races is bollocks. We simply don't know enough about intelligence to make that claim.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah 2014... is a bit old to be seeing the reverse Flynn effect. It's accepted as a thing at this point.

Flynn effect and its reversal are both environmentally caused 2018

THE REVERSAL OF THE FLYNN EFFECT 2020

The negative Flynn Effect: A systematic literature review

Selection against variants in the genome associated with educational attainment 2017

Right but there's not a lot of genetic variation in humans compared to other animals.

Actually not true. The fst between human races is about normal for large mammal sub species, which gets glossed over. And it doesn't actually take a whole lot of variation, just variation in gene frequency. For example a couple of genes known to affect brain development are very common in Eurasian samples but rare in African (ASPM1 and mcph1). They also have a TMRCA of about 40k, well after the split of African and non African populations.

And claims that there are established differences in intelligence between races is bollocks.

I take it you won't be happy if I post the gentile Vs Jew paper then.

The difference has been shown relentlessly in testing over many decades. The only thing being argued over by even the most hardcore egalitarian is the cause at this point.

Human intelligence is just as much affected by environmental selective pressure as any other trait. It's barking mad to think otherwise.

[–]Sonofzeus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

STFU orc

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ooga booga

[–]DiscoStegosaurus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These people are so horrible, racist and decisive. How does a person become so evil and hateful? This timeline is just awful and the party in power is supporting and encouraging this. It’s terrible.