The new president marks the end of the old civic nationalist America and the beginning of the new managerial state. Competitive elections and open debate have been swept away in favor of ceremonial elections and speech codes. The managerial class has formally seized control of the country.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

A good writer - but notice that there is no reliable evidence for this person's claims. This reflects his approaches in much of the blog. Before Saiditors praise this clickbait, have a look at this other (fascist-Zionist) gem from him:

https://vdare.com/posts/the-virtue-of-nationalism-a-book-of-contradictions

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

There is a lot of overlap between Zionism and the racist ethnostate that the alt-right wants for America. No immigration, deportation of illegal aliens, border wall, a government that serves the needs of the chosen race: Israel has it all.

Chapter 16 is his best chapter and one of the strongest arguments for ethno-nationalism you will find, outside of dissident circles. That chapter would not look out of place in Greg Johnson’s White Nationalist Manifesto. It is both an argument against multiculturalism and an argument in favor of ethno-nationalism. He is careful to avoid directly mentioning the biological aspect of nationalism, but no rational person can read that chapter and no think Hazony assumes a biological root to nationalism.

"reliable evidence"

SJWs like you don't believe in evidence, facts, logic or Enlightenment values: all are "the master's tools" of racism. No, really; that's what you actually believe, citation here.

You're not using racist tools, are you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I appreciate the information and the chapter, but why to you to identify me and others in this thread as SJW or some other kind of person you don't like. Let's stick to the topic.

Regarding Zionism and the racist ethnostate - or whatever you wish to call it - there is a total overlap. For example, for honest Zionists there is no "two state solution," there is only Israel, and Palestine is not recognized as a state. You must know this. And yes, Raadical Republicans support a voting base that wants for the US: " No immigration, deportation of illegal aliens, border wall, a government that serves the needs of the chosen race." As for SJW, and racist tools, I have no idea what you're talking about in those cases.

The way you've written the response is not a clear indication of what you are trying to say. If you are referring to your agreement with the book, "The Virtue of Nationalism" and your support of "ethno-nationalism," you want to support a fascist, authoritarian regime in the US. This would obviously be wrong on so many levels.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're arguing dishonestly. You're not applying the Principle of Charity and trying to understand the opponent's arguments as per Saidit policy. You're trying to twist my words so you can call me a nazi, which is total SJW language from the Reddit Hate Brigade, to which you belong.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

1) There is nothing dishonest in what I've written here or elsewhere

2) I don't know what 'Principle of Charity' is, and should not have to

3) Yes - "trying to understand the opponent's arguments" (Not really a problem here, nor is there an 'opponent'. This is not a game.)

4) It's a simple comparison between Nazi interests and what you've written. This is not about you, or me.

5) Still don't know or care what an SJW is

6) Also don't know about the Reddit Hate Brigade

7) Try not to take any of this personally. Stick to the facts or the debate. Focusing on insults is of course a weakness and doesn't help your argument. Cheer up.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

2) I don't know what 'Principle of Charity' is, and should not have to

So you're uneducated.

5) Still don't know or care what an SJW is

Social Justice Warrior. I.E., you, but you already knew that. More dishonesty.

6) Also don't know about the Reddit Hate Brigade

More lies. You've come here from Reddit to spread hate on this website. It's not a secret.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does it help you to make up categories for people? Does this make you feel better? None of what you mention above is true, or even logically accurate, but you seem to insist that you already know me so well.

For example:

2) An educated person does not have to know your specific use of Principle of Charity. One can for example think of early 17th century concepts in Italy, or Spain, or similar.

5) Look up I.E., and I do not have to know what SJW is. It's unimportant, and irrelevant. I'm also not that social, that concerned with justice on Saidit, or a 'warrior', whatever you think that is.

6) You can read in my comment history that I am not on Saidit to spread hate. Another factual error from you.

What's happened here is that you've tried to identify me, and you want to argue about facts. Both of these approaches are really stupid and unproductive.