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[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It really isn't. It's just a load of legal waffle.

Just your racist brain projecting, as per usual.

[–]DICKTRACY 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the realm of discourse, where ideas clash and perspectives converge, it is imperative that we engage in discussions with an open mind and a genuine desire to understand differing viewpoints. However, when confronted with responses that dismiss or belittle our contributions, it is essential to respond in a manner that is both assertive and respectful. In the instance of the dismissive remark, "It really isn't. It's just a load of legal waffle," followed by the accusatory statement, "Just your racist brain projecting, as per usual," it is clear that the respondent has no intention of engaging in a productive dialogue. Their response is not only dismissive but also employs a personal attack, attempting to undermine the validity of your argument by labeling you as racist. To effectively counter such a response, it is crucial to maintain composure and focus on the substance of the issue at hand. Avoid stooping to the level of personal attacks or insults, as this will only serve to derail the discussion and further entrench the respondent in their position. Instead, adopt an engaging tone that demonstrates your willingness to engage in a meaningful exchange of ideas. One way to do this is to acknowledge the respondent's perspective, even if you disagree with it. This shows that you are listening to their point of view and that you value their opinion, even if you ultimately disagree. For example, you could say, "I appreciate your perspective, and I understand why you might feel that way. However, I have a different interpretation of the situation." Next, provide a well-reasoned explanation of your position. Be clear, concise, and provide evidence to support your claims. Avoid using jargon or technical language that may alienate the respondent. Instead, use plain language that is easy to understand. For example, you could say, "I believe that the legal framework in question is a necessary safeguard against potential abuses of power. It may seem like a lot of 'legal waffle,' but it is essential for ensuring that the rights of all citizens are protected." Additionally, you can use questions to engage the respondent in a more thoughtful discussion. This demonstrates your willingness to listen to their perspective and to consider their arguments. For example, you could ask, "Can you explain why you believe that the legal framework is unnecessary or ineffective? I'm genuinely interested in understanding your point of view." Finally, it is important to remember that you cannot control the respondent's reaction. They may still choose to dismiss your arguments or continue to engage in personal attacks. In such cases, it is best to disengage from the conversation politely and move on. Engaging with someone who is unwilling to have a productive discussion is a futile exercise that will only lead to frustration and resentment. In conclusion, when faced with dismissive or accusatory responses, it is essential to maintain composure, acknowledge the respondent's perspective, provide a well-reasoned explanation of your own position, and engage the respondent in a thoughtful discussion using questions. If the respondent remains unwilling to engage in a productive dialogue, it is best to disengage politely and move on.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's more interesting than that: a treatise with a complex assessment of religious and civil laws that guide legal officials, and re. 113a, concerning interactions with gentiles. It's obviously problematic because of the conflation of civil and religious law, and doubly problematic because Hebrews require their own legal systems and territories to be independent of gentile legal systems and territories, though both obviously overlap. I'll correct my comment further above - noting it's worse than the false translation given by Larry - but I will note that my concern is essentially that these legal discussions specifically regard methods for cheating gentiles, though arguments are given to not cheat them. There is one serious problem here:

It is derived from a verse, as it is stated: “And you shall consume all the peoples that the Lord your God shall deliver unto you” (Deuteronomy 7:16), indicating that it is permitted to consume the other nations’ property only when they are delivered into your hand, i.e., in times of war, but not when they are not delivered into your hand.

There is no sufficient argument against this, and indeed gentiles would also keep spoils of war or conflict. This is a major loophole in the arguments, something that has permitted Israeli's to take Palestinian property while violating international law. Jewish law permits it, whereas international law does not. It's obviously a double-standard. If Jews want their laws respected, they should also respect international law, or gentile law, as partially noted on folio 113a. But Jews can call whatever they take as 'delivered into their hands' in time of conflict, thereby not respecting international law.

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    [–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Unrelated.