Texas woman mistaken as a home intruder by two female cops said she saw holes appear in the wall before she realized what was happening. The two female cops mag dumped the instant they saw her, and then some. (video)

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[–]westway9 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is why you never want weak or stupid people to have life or death authority over you. We need police reform.

[–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Seems a bit hysterical.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I shot at a home invader like that, I'd be in prison for possession of a deadly weapon and attempted gun assault.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Likely lying

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Who? The woman in the house? As in: She actually was a home invader?
I still don't think you empty two magazines into a home invader unless they are shooting and you missed a lot, right?

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Yeah she was a "friend" of a woman that lived there yet she removed a window to get in. Which is why neighbors called cops. A gun was found at the scene so I bet she pointed it at them. All these cases of evil cops always turn out that the cops were justified. I'll agree these women cops missed a lot and that's the big problem here.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

yet she removed a window to get in.

She lived at the house. She had every right to be there and ever right to break her own window. Investigators said that one of the women had forgotten her keys and smashed the window herself.

Americans will go on about "Freedom freedom freedom" and then its "but if you do anything even a tiny bit unusual the cops are allowed to shoot you dead, no questions asked."

A gun was found at the scene

Americans: "Second Amendment! Gun rights gun rights gun rights! You'll take my gun from my cold dead hands."

Police shoot somebody for exercising their constitutional right to carry a gun: "They deserved it."

I'll agree these women cops missed a lot and that's the big problem here.

  1. The fact that they fired even one bullet is the big problem here.
  2. Male cops miss a lot too. The cop who shot Jacob Blake fired seven shots from point-blank range, literally inches away, and still managed to miss three times 😂

All these cases of evil cops always turn out that the cops were justified.

Only because Americans are simps for violent, brutal cops and will always make excuses for them, no matter that the excuses wouldn't fool a simpleton.

Your "justified cops" include:

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

TLDR but I'm guessing those are all justified or if not it's fake news. You shills keep getting caught with hate crime hoaxes.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TLDR

And this is why you are doomed to forever be an ignorant dumbass.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You shills are boys that cried wolf, don't be mad if no one reads your screeds after you were caught with so many hoaxes

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Even if every word of that is true, and it turns out the woman was actually a demonic snake person who eats babies and had a dirty bomb, I'd like those cops to go through some reviews to talk about the fact they dumped the whole mag, still only feet away from the suspect, without cover, then stayed there, reloaded, didn't reassess the situation or attempt to communicate with the suspect or move away from the danger to cover, and unloaded a second full mag like it was some kind of "Double tap, make sure she's dead" situation.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The woman lived at the house. She had every right to be there.

The only thing usual about this shooting is that the two cops were women. If they were male cops, the story probably wouldn't even be reported.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nonsense. Any story in which a home owner was legitimately in their own home and a cop not only unloaded a full magazine into the house without even calling for them to get down, step where they can be seen, etc... Then reloaded a fresh magazine and emptied that as well, would be national news. We get national news when cops kill dogs they are worried are aggressive - if you think this is anything to do with gender you're in dire need of a revision of what's going on around you.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If one is to pull out a gun in self defense they need to be prepared to keep shooting until the suspect is dead. If you miss a lot and have to reload, so be it. They do need training on aiming. Women shouldn't be cops.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Disagree. We don't hire and train cops to shoot, then keep shooting until there's more bullet than suspect on the ground, nor should we. If someone needs to be shot dead, sucks, but so be it. A second magazine is almost never the case.

Your comment applies more to the average person killing a home invader in self defence, and even then it only applies under the right circumstances.

Women cops are fine. Even good depending on the role. I don't think I'd send two women out together like this, if for no other reason than I wouldn't want violent criminals to think they should resist because "It's just two girls".

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes we do. Shoot to kill or don't take out the gun.

Women cops aren't fine if you wouldn't send them out for this.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would though. I'd send them out paired with a dude... I wouldn't send That cop out to do Anything.
And, no. Cops don't draw guns specifically to kill people. It's all part of an escalation of violence. Cops aren't meant to be shooting first and shooting to kill unless they think there's a situation in which lives are in danger... Spotting someone in a house isn't that, and even if it was, once the suspect is down, you don't keep unloading. You can disagree all you want, but they have procedures designed to reduce loss of life. If you disagree with that, you'll have to speak to years and years of law enforcement, I won't be able to help you.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Self defence" says the simp for murderous cops 🙈 🙉 🙊

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True heroes

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Holy shit! That cop reloaded a mag and kept shooting! I assume there was something happening that made them suspect they were in danger just before this, but a reload and a second empty?? Pretty sure the basic training cops get tells you not to keep pumping rounds like that, right?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I assume there was something happening that made them suspect they were in danger

Naivety level: 11 out of 10.

Cops are coached to repeat the magic words "I thought I saw a gun and felt my life was in danger" no matter what.

the basic training cops

Truer words were never spoken. American cops only get a few months worth of basic training, followed by gun practice for the rest of their career. This is why American cops are so incompetent compared to police in other developed countries. German police, for example, have to do the equivalent of a three year bachelor's degree before they are considered fully qualified officers. American cops just have to remember how to dress themselves.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Paranoia and oppression complex levels: 11 out of 10.

In 2022, there were 7.36 Million arrests made in America. That's not police interactions, that's arrests. In the same year there were 1,097 people shot dead by police in the US. Even accepting that most fatal shootings don't end in arrests, which would only better our numbers by counting them as separate interactions, and ignoring that many interactions don't end in arrests, that's 0.01% of confrontations ending in a shooting... 0.01%... I'd expect more accidental shootings than that from any trained group using guns.

Police are not out there shooting people, making excuses and covering it up. Cops shooting whole magazines into people, reloading and shooting again at the same person is rare... That's why people are paying attention, because it's insane that something like this would happen.

I'm sure there are plenty of instances where cops cover each other and agree that shooting was the right thing to do, but then it turns out there wasn't any danger so they both agree to say they thought there was a gun. There's likely also situations in which they saw a mobile phone, a wallet, a child's toy or just someone acting jittery and suspicious and they both agree that they thought they were in danger and stick to it... But this idea that there's some secret lodge of police out there hunting people for sport and constantly whipping out guns and shooting at people for laughs, then shaking hands and smiling and winking is a modern narrative that's been getting spun harder and harder to justify criminal action and riots. Don't buy into it. The numbers don't reflect that laughable idea.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

0.01%... I'd expect more accidental shootings than that from any trained group using guns.

Your expectations are too low. No other first world country in the world has a rate of police shooting even close to that high. The American rate of police shootings is like a mid-level developing country. Which is about right, really, if not for Wall Street that's exactly what the US would be.

this idea that there's some secret lodge of police out there hunting people for sport

Nobody says that.

and constantly whipping out guns and shooting at people

The police argue that they do this because they are following their training. Are you saying they're lying when the cops themselves admit to be trained to whip out their guns at perceived threats?

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Your expectations are too low. No other first world country in the world has a rate of police shooting even close to that high. The American rate of police shootings is like a mid-level developing country. Which is about right, really, if not for Wall Street that's exactly what the US would be.

No, you're off track. That isn't because American police are trigger happy, it's because America has a crime and gun violence problem. Taking into account your classification of "First World", which... I mean, it's a little too wishy washy for me to be exact. I assume we basically just mean Europe, Australia, NZ, Asia and North America? Because, obviously, Mexico exists and, man, they'll shoot you up lickety split... But, anyway, the point is that of those countries America tops gun related deaths. For a country where you're most likely to be shot to have a 0.01% police gun violence rate is outstanding!

Nobody says that.

You implied it, and I exaggerated it for comedy. You suggested that the above video shouldn't be surprising or considered shocking. It is, however, which is why it's news, and the numbers support that most police aren't shooting unnecessarily and without provocation in any real numbers.

The police argue that they do this because they are following their training. Are you saying they're lying when the cops themselves admit to be trained to whip out their guns at perceived threats?

You're being disingenuous, and I'm sure you know it. Police aren't trained to pull their guns out at "perceived threats"... That's why they also have tasers and other tools at their disposal. The LAPD report using the taser 2-3 times a day on average when it was first introduced as a tool between entering melee and shooting. The fact is that your impression that police shoot needlessly and often without provocation isn't supported by the facts. It's a narrative that's pushed loudly on social media, and depending on which news media outlet you watch in America I understand one paints them as basically government criminals and the other as the most noble and holy of Paladins. The facts suggest that they are humans who do a fairly decent job of not shooting people without cause, given they spend their working day being told to confront people who have, usually, already shown that they are willing to break the social agreement of not stealing, beating or murdering people.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Because, obviously, Mexico exists and, man, they'll shoot you up lickety split...

Hilariously, per capita police shootings in the USA is higher than for Mexico, which is fighting a genuine drug war against the drug cartels.

Honestly, "Well at least we're not as bad as Mexico -- um actually we're worse" is not such a hot take on the issue of police violence.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awkward collar adjustment

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Police aren't trained to pull their guns out at "perceived threats"...

Yes they are. They say so themselves. On the very, very, very rare occasion a cop de-escalates a potentially violent situation without going all Rambo, his fellow cops turn on him with a bullshit fairytale about how he put their lives in danger. His department accused him of negligence, called him a bad cop for not killing a man who was no danger to anyone, and argued that if an officer can use deadly force they must use deadly force.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No they aren't. The training is: "In self defence or in the defence of others from an imminent threat". They have a series of escalation of violence standards and training and are taught how to deescalate situations in various ways with the understanding that the use of deadly force is the last option.

Look, I get it, for whatever reason you don't like cops... But if you want to debate that there's a problem with the police force, it can't just be with nonsense that's factually incorrect and the numbers show is literally not the case. I've shown you that cops shoot people only in Very rare circumstances, factually and numerically, but you just keep circling back to this idea that cops are out there "going all Rambo." Nothing supports this claim. You aren't producing evidence of this claim to contradict the evidence I've shown that this isn't a regular event. You just keep saying it as if it were fact.

It's not. I can't really continue to have a conversation when I show you that this isn't the case and you just keep talking as though it is.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can't really continue to have a conversation when I show you that this isn't the case

You haven't shown anything, you've just asserted it with no evidence or proof except Trust Me Bro. You have given exactly zero evidence of anything except that you're a simp for the cops.

By the way, we shouldn't just count police killings. For every person killed, there are a dozen more who are severely wounded or even crippled for life. Do you really want me to post links to thirty or forty thousand killings, shootings and crippling beatings handed out by American cops? I know you're not going to read more than none of them.

There are almost 18,000 independent law enforcement agencies across the USA, run from everything from the federal government to local city councils. It's fucking ridiculous. Can you believe that some states have special "hospital police" who do nothing but be police at hospitals??? 😂 You yanks are mad.

And every one of those 18,000 LE agencies has its own standards, its own training, it's own set of bureaucracy, and its own code of omertà not to squeal to other cops, internal affairs, or the press.

Obviously the quality of training officers receive will vary across those 18,000 independent departments. Some of the training courses might even be halfway decent. But most of them are like Georgia:

That's right, the state of Georgia makes it almost four times harder to qualify to cut somebody's hair than to legally arrest or shoot somebody 😂

No wonder police are so incompetent in the USA.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You haven't shown anything, you've just asserted it with no evidence or proof except Trust Me Bro. You have given exactly zero evidence of anything except that you're a simp for the cops.

Please refer back to the start of the thread where I did, in fact, show evidence that these events are rare and not at all what you're talking about.
https://saidit.net/s/news/comments/cbxs/texas_woman_mistaken_as_a_home_intruder_by_two/15i57

But you'll be talking about it alone, because you're now just denying what's clearly already laid out.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never questioned your ability to divide one number by another and get 0.01% shootings per arrest. I questioned your sense in thinking that's an acceptable number for a developed, first world country. Police shootings are higher per capita than Bangladesh, Pakistan, Argentina and Egypt.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More falling acorns.

[–]Ihatenigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Someone or all involved are niggers I bet. I mean a home invader is definitely nig and 2 female cops who can’t shoot suggest their ape like fingers can’t hold a gun correctly.