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[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why are people so addicted to vengeance?

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Not vengeance, just punishment and safety. Punishment for the crime is you lose your freedoms (and that includes playing dress up). Safety is for the women. If you're m2f, and want to be housed in a women's prison, you get chemically castrated to protect them from you. It wears off after your stay has concluded.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Punishment is vengeance. It's one of our many sadistic desires we must learn to tame.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No, punishment is not vengeance, it's punishment. You do a crime, you get punished by society. It's not personal. Vengeance is personal.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Society is vengeful. Literally the only point is either revenge, or self-righteous smugness. Two wrongs do not make a right.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's your opinion, but words have actual meaning. When your parents sent you to your room for doing something wrong, it wasn't for vengeance, it was to teach you a lesson and hopefully stopping you from doing it again, probably for your own damned good. Punishment does not equal vengeance.

And what about the victims of the crime? They pay taxes and expect to be protected. Then some asshole, out of their own selfishness, robs, steals, hurts, or kills them. Should they not be punished for their crimes just because some people don't know the difference between punishment and vengeance? You sound nuts.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We do it because it feels good to see our enemies suffer. Even most times when parents send kids to their room it's mostly because the parent is pissed at them and has the power to get their way, not with the kid's future in mind. And someone going to prison has no future regardless.

Everyone makes mistakes, but everyone thinks they should be allowed to, but not others. Also it's just an excuse to eliminate potential competitors in natural selection.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I can't even call it any kind of logic. We live in a country with laws. You break them, you get punished. That's not vengeance, it's justice. Don't like the laws, you can change them. Crying about it like everyone owes you the right to fuck up and murder, rape, steal at your leisure with no consequences is childish and stupid.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I understand the need to put dangerous people away. But any further punishment is completely unnecessary and can only be out of hate and vengeance. Especially now when sentences are getting increasingly harsh and parole is being abolished.