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[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Just what we need, more big government and censorship

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Children, we're talking about children.

Putting a minimum age on purchasing alcohol isn't big government or censorship, right? Same applies here.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But punishing people who think the age should be lowered or not exist is, which is what you're proposing. Also, "social transition" is a made-up concept that can't do any permanent damage to anyone, you just don't like it.

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No no no, you make it so you need to be 18+ then punish the people that don't abide by the law. That's what I'm proposing. And "social transitioning" isn't made-up, the child is encouraged to emulate the opposite sex in dress, name, pronouns, and whatever other stereotypes they can think of during the child's formative years. These being the child's formative years means this impacts their future significantly.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Every single person is indoctrinated as a child. If we made that a crime, every single parent and teacher ever would be in prison. Not to mention it's too difficult to prove.

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But is it child abuse to raise your child as the opposite sex? I think the argument can be made that it's wilfully causing psychological harm.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say it's child and adult abuse to put so much importance on a person's gender, outside of sex.