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[–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Seems Erin can't fucking read. Nowhere in this legislation does it say "detransition," it just limits the age to 26. I think this is stupid, let idiots chop themselves up if they're 18+. If you're too dumb to recognize how stupid that is, be my guest. Just don't expect me to pay for it, deny science/biology, dictate language, or try and get me fired because I won't play your stupid games.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Nowhere in this legislation does it say "detransition," it just limits the age to 26.

There isn't a grandfather clause for people who are currently taking hormones to still be allowed them, so effectively people 25 and under who are currently on cross gender hormones would be detransitioned.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

In effect, but it doesn't say they will be forced to transition. There are other options for treatment. Personally the arbitrary 26 is just stupid. 18 is fine. Nothing wrong with waiting until someone is an adult to make those life-changing decisions. Certainly beats the insane puberty blockers and surgery for children trend in other states.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We're in total agreement here, although if you're of the mindset you need wrong gender hormones this definitely causes issues. I get why they're mad, and I also think if they're 18 they can fuck up their life however they want, the thing is, if they really want to have a shot of ever passing as female, they can't experience male puberty -- and those people are too young to make that call.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Definitely in agreement. This idiot is just being a Chicken Little. What are there, 3 trans people in Oklahoma?

[–]JewsAreOfColor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s still three too many.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wouldn't matter if there were 300,000.

[–]wristaction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is a good example of why it's important to not allow a villain to lead you to a second location.

This "problem" of how to accommodate teens who are currently on HRT isn't a problem. Their HRT prescriptions simply stop. Ceasing the transing of kids just means there is no more transing of kids. This "problem" of it being too late at the age of majority to reverse puberty is not a problem. Puberty is not a disease. It doesn't need to be reversed, much less stalled. There is no essential right to be mistaken for or to superficially resemble the opposite sex which needs to be balanced with age of consent or unemancipated minor status.

All of that nonsense exists at the "second location" the villain has led you to.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Damn. You're right.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

26 is the actual biological age at which the brain is fully matured.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's good children won't be able to get this stuff, although I'm not really a big fan of the government deciding what substances people can and can't take.

[–]cons_nc 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Great. Time to shut this anti-biology nonsense down. If it hurts kids, then it should be illegal.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It shouldn’t even be allowed for adults. This is eugenics.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. It's definitely more viscerally upsetting that they so readily moved to children, but there's a deficit in our compassion and humanity that we allow adults to do this to themselves.

[–]wristaction 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What's an amazing feature of our Democracy is that to defend the bill would violate Twitter TOS.

[–]Hoomsns[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i follow a couple of the more active "trans activists".. one is @erininthemorn "she" has been saying that elonmusk seems to be allowing others to disrespect the trans crowd and then the trans people get banned...

https://twitter.com/erininthemorn

the italian mafia used to say to keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer.

i can tell you that since i have a couple of accounts on twitter, i know that when i comment under @erininthemorn my comments get shadow banned... because when i try to see my comments using my other twitter accounts, i cant see my comments.

but, my comments made to other twitter users are visible as expected..

i do believe that @elonmusk is trying to be fair to everyone, and maybe he is trying to find peace..

at a minimum, @elonmusk doesnt allow the trannies to shitcan my account.