Bill Cosby freed from prison, his sex conviction overturned

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He plead out, that's just how our legal system works. I had to plea to disorderly conduct after the cops beat my ass and arrested me. It cost me tens of thousands, dragged on for a year and a half, and juries think you wouldn't be in court if you weren't guilty. It makes sense to plea, that's how the courts work these days.

Our legal system is fucked. You're right, nobody would care about us.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

no, you really don't get it.

he gave up a deposition for a civil trial in 2005 but supposedly the da told him if he did he wouldn't be criminally charged with what he said (immunity)

then 15 years later.. they used that to convict him.

i actually agree with the decision (if true) .. but fuck man.. they never should have given it.. and since it isn't written down anywhere..

but whatever.. point is.. he confessed, not a plea

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

he confessed, not a plea

That's how plea bargains work, you confess in exchange for a deal. It often makes sense to plea even if you aren't guilty and that ain't right, but you can't tell if someone is truly innocent or guilty from that.

A plea bargain (also plea agreement or plea deal) is an agreement in criminal law proceedings, whereby the prosecutor provides a concession to the defendant in exchange for a plea of guilt or nolo contendere. This may mean that the defendant will plead guilty to a less serious charge, or to one of the several charges, in return for the dismissal of other charges; or it may mean that the defendant will plead guilty to the original criminal charge in return for a more lenient sentence.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_bargain

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the story you are telling me is that he didn't do it, and it was just part of a plea.

that is what I hear.

what I say is that no, he did do it, he admitted to it, it was part of a plea, but the plea bargain was immunity if he told the truth

not the same as 'admitting to a crime you didn't do' .

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if he did it, he might have. We don't know. It makes sense to plea. He could have fought that legal challenge for years, dragged his name through the mud, had bail revoked for any infraction, and ended up in jail if he let it go to trial which would cost even more money and time.

Or take the plea, pay the woman, and move on with his life. He chose to do that because it makes sense.

So it's hard to say that plea bargain means he was actually guilty when there's a huge incentive to plea and as part of the deal the whole thing was supposed to be incognito.