Biden push to raise minimum wage to $15 would kill 1.4 million jobs: CBO

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[–]TheEvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

the best is people pushing for this dont realize how an economy really works and that once 15$ is given to fast food workers they are instantly just going to be replaced by machines. Wait staff, if included in this, will NEVER get tips. I know Im not going to bother. Prices on everything will jump, and jobs will be lost. People now making 15$ an hour will be paying more for basic commodities yet be pushed out of federal assistance programs because they make too much money.

On top of that, people who worked harder will not be getting pay bumps. So those in trades or with college degrees will now be making even less by comparison on top of also paying more for the same items. then on top of that end up paying more in taxes when its all done because now these 15$ an hour people will still need your money to help them.

My question is why doesnt everyone who works in a low wage field, go take classes, start a small business or learn a trade in their off time to further themselves economically? Is it FOMO? Do they think theyll miss too much twitter and tik toking if they use their spare time to become more successful?

I worked 2 jobs and put myself through school on top of starting my own property rental business. I dont feel sorry for anyone not willing to do what I did, cause......

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Mostly these people have other priorities than getting rich such as being an present member of their family/community or caring.

Not everyone wants to move up the social scale. Indeed those who do often don't end up happier because they lose some of the support network which people who stay in one place on one track create.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Capitalism is anti-family, just like Communism.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Having a job isn't capitalist though.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Capitalism rewards you for spending less time with your family and for abandoning family values in the name of profit.

[–]TheEvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

lol, your comment is so fucking retarded lol, and lol again. so basically you choose what you choose. If you choose to stay in a low paying position then its your choice. lol lol lol.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It is your choice in the West.

Everyone has access to education and the option to change their job unless they are being kept as a literal slave.

But as I said it's not just a case of one choice, it's what you lose and what discomfort and risk you have to put up with if you do something like move to a different city or start another career from the bottom.

I mean have you ever done that?

About 5 years ago I switched career and started right back at minimum wage but now I'm earning double what I was. It was a risk and I was living in someone's garage for a year to save on rent but if I didn't take that risk I'd have been poor my whole life.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My question is why doesnt everyone who works in a low wage field, go take classes, start a small business or learn a trade in their off time to further themselves economically?

Because we still need low-skill workers; we have to maintain to class system to keep society functional. Communism tried to remove it, and it didn't end well. The best solution is to make low-skill labor viable again — which a minimum wage doesn't do, but forcing everyone to become a business owner is just naive.

Replacing the minimum wage and broken welfare system with a UBI or NIT (or both) seems like a much better option than forcing struggling business owners to foot the bill, or just telling everyone to start a business.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

if jobs go away must mean it's time for a new new deal

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't need a new deal, we need to share our wealth!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yup these boomers don't realize they had it so good cuz of the new deal

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

on top of starting my own property rental

I meant to ask you a question about that. I posted in your sub a few days ago. My apartment complex changed their online bill pay site and didn't tell us, I tried to pay with a check and they wouldn't take it, and then after 3 phone calls we finally got told the right web site. We paid, but later that day we got a Notice to Vacate. This apartment complex sends those out any time anything happens. Like when they think they need an update on our renter's insurance (it never changes) they don't ask, they send an eviction notice.

So my question is, what the fuck is up with that?

[–]TheEvilNick 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Wellllllllllllllllllll I am prob the first person to be banned from said it lol so I wont get direct questions or responses to those subs anymore lol. I had to recreate this account and can no longer give myself mod access to the subs I created.

Im a smaller based LL (I also dont really like using the term landlord. Im basically management and maintenance). For larger complexes they use outsourced property management companies to handle office stuff and everything is usually auto generated from a system. So some person in a chair gets an alert your late and then a notice is stamped and put in the mail. A notice means dick and wont affect anything.

As for not telling you its going to be their word against yours. They will say a letter went out, or some email etc etc. You will say you never got it. If you have a good standing with the place they will usually let it slide and waive the late fees and the notice just goes away if they dont start proceedings. A notice has really nothing to do with the court system until after the 30 days and the building goes and files official paperwork. Each state may differ a bit though. The notice to vacate was probably already being processed by someone else while you were talking to your person.

tenants have to protect themselves and remember so do landlords. The courts are NOT usually on the LLs side even if they are good ones. We have to be sure all paper work is filed promptly and correctly or we can be stuck with an awful tenant because the courts decide to make our lives hell. its not a personal thing, remember for every good landlord there are 10 bad ones, for every good tenants there are a hundred bad ones. the odds are just stacked against us so we have to be super on top of everything.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How retarded do you have to be to publicly admit to ban evasion?