Switzerland's Nemo Wins Eurovision 2024 Song Contest

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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

What the fuck?

The article is about who won Eurovision this year. Eurovision isn't anti-European USSR or USA. Russia has, in the past, participated. And its about as far from USA culture as any modern European institution ... unless not shooting each other or getting healthcare without the government saying which life saving procedures are murder are institutions.

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Sorry.

I try to include too much contextual information and so end up writing in run-on sentences, which, unfortunately, can obscure my meaning.

I'm not saying that 'Eurovision is anti-European USSR or USA' (though it is the first, but that's not the main point of the comment above).

I'm saying that the sad state of current 'European Culture' (as exemplified by the winner of Eurovision),
results from that the post-WWII governments and establishments of Europe
(which was divided and occupied by the anti-European USSR and USA)
fell over each other to virtue-signal (to the occupiers) how,
since the Nazis liked a certain kind of 'Positive'? art, they hated it,
and since the Nazis hated what they called 'Degenerate Art',
it now had to be promoted as the culmination of excellence.

So, since, and still today ...
'if it's not perverted, primitive, ugly, stupid or insane, or, preferably, all of the above [i.e. 'Degenerate'],
then it may not be promoted/celebrated'.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The song has a rap break, which you could possibly accuse of being low art, but even those are punctuated at each phrase with that big sound of full orchestral strings. It's got much bigger orchestral and operatic influences than most entries.

What is it about this entry that's particularly "degenerate art" per Nazis than the others?

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Eurovision has Turkey, Israel, Azerbaijan, etc., (Yemen not available?),
as 'Europeans'(!), singing inane cookie-cutter Mc-songs, in US-English,
and the more perverted/degenerate the contestant, the more likely to win,
and this now is ... ta-dah ... 'European Culture'?!

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you're not talking about the artist and the art at all?

When you said and since the Nazis hated what they called 'Degenerate Art', it now had to be promoted as the culmination of excellence. Really needs clarification if you didn't mean to imply that this had something to do with what the Nazis called "Degenerate Art'

What do you claim is perverted/degenerate about Nemo?

[–]HugodeCrevellier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

'Inane cookie-cutter Mc-songs sung in US-English' is about the artist and the art.

All the in-your-face perversions may even be there to distract from how uninteresting Mc-songs actually are.

And the promotion of abnormality/lying as a value ('There are not two sexes, but ... six, eight!'?), that's at least a little perverted/degenerate, isn't it?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's a cookie cutter mc-song?

What makes is US and not European English?

And the promotion of abnormality/lying as a value ('There are not two sexes, but ... six, eight!'?)

You're objection is that he wears a dress? It's not lying. Don't worry about it.

that's at least a little perverted/degenerate, isn't it?

No. You've just got some weird hang ups.