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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

    All you have to do to be antifa is to be against fascism.

    The original Antifa was the terror wing of the KPD. They violently opposed fascists, liberals, monarchists, social democrats, anarchists, apolitical normies, etc. - pretty much anyone who wasn't a hardline Stalinist.

    Everybody should be against fascism.

    No, only the corrupt ruling class.

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    Are you referring to this?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Germany

    If so, the "original anti-fascists" were much earlier, known as the "international left" and later the Arditi del Popolo

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arditi_del_Popolo

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_and_anti-Fascist_violence_in_Italy_(1919%E2%80%931926)

    German fascism was initially a carbon copy of Italian fascism, and to understand anti-fascist groups, one should look at the fascist moments they were against. It is quintessentially non-American to be a fascist.

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    If so, the "original anti-fascists" were much earlier, known as the "international left" and later the Arditi del Popolo

    The German Antifa wasn't the first group to oppose fascists, but it was the first group to call itself "antifa" and use that logo. That group is what modern anti-fascists model themselves after.

    It is quintessentially non-American to be a fascist.

    Is it?

    https://patriotfront.us/manifesto/

    In its founding, the US, like the fascists, modeled itself after the Roman Republic, and was explicitly defined as a nation of "White persons of good character." Fasces feature prominently in the Lincoln and Washington Monuments, in the Oval Office, and in Congress (along with swastikas). The National Socialists also had a particular fondness for the American Indian.

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    Do you genuinely believe in what is written in that manifesto?

    Do you know that those quotations are taken out of context and reorgnized to distort the approaches of the American experiment?

    Do you support the group at patriotfront.us?

    Do you see similarities between Germany during 1933-39 and any development in the US? If so, when, and which developments?

    More info about that website: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Front

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    Do you know that those quotations are taken out of context and reorgnized to distort the approaches of the American experiment?

    The United States was an experiment in pan-Europeanism. This idea that anyone in the world can be an American was invented by Jews mainly starting in the early 20th century. Read Culture of Critique.

    Do you see similarities between Germany during 1933-39 and any development in the US?

    No, but I do see many parallels with the Weimar Era.

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    I know of MacDonald's works and associated debates, and I agree with much of the social history he tries to address, though I do not necessarily agree with "evolutionary psychology" and some of his other points. I also don't see his approaches as necessarily white supremacist, but instead as a social history.

    Patriotfront.us is however certainly white supremacist, and spreading disinformation about US history that is dangerous, when one considers that this is helping develop domestic terrorism.

    The fairness doctrine should be reinstated.

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    Patriotfront.us is however certainly white supremacist, and spreading disinformation about US history that is dangerous, when one considers that this is helping develop domestic terrorism.

    To stop domestic terrorism in the US, just dismantle the FBI.

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    Really - dismantle the only agency going after the domestic terrorists? Without the FBI, domestic terrorism will continue.

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    They have been involved in pretty much every recent terror plot. They have been entrapping people for decades, whether they be nationalists, communists, Muslims, environmentalists, animal rights people, whoever. They are a secret police agency like any other, and they target any form of political dissent.

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