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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Do you know that those quotations are taken out of context and reorgnized to distort the approaches of the American experiment?

The United States was an experiment in pan-Europeanism. This idea that anyone in the world can be an American was invented by Jews mainly starting in the early 20th century. Read Culture of Critique.

Do you see similarities between Germany during 1933-39 and any development in the US?

No, but I do see many parallels with the Weimar Era.

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I know of MacDonald's works and associated debates, and I agree with much of the social history he tries to address, though I do not necessarily agree with "evolutionary psychology" and some of his other points. I also don't see his approaches as necessarily white supremacist, but instead as a social history.

Patriotfront.us is however certainly white supremacist, and spreading disinformation about US history that is dangerous, when one considers that this is helping develop domestic terrorism.

The fairness doctrine should be reinstated.

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Patriotfront.us is however certainly white supremacist, and spreading disinformation about US history that is dangerous, when one considers that this is helping develop domestic terrorism.

To stop domestic terrorism in the US, just dismantle the FBI.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Really - dismantle the only agency going after the domestic terrorists? Without the FBI, domestic terrorism will continue.

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They have been involved in pretty much every recent terror plot. They have been entrapping people for decades, whether they be nationalists, communists, Muslims, environmentalists, animal rights people, whoever. They are a secret police agency like any other, and they target any form of political dissent.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So you're implying the FBI caused the recent terror plots? Any reasonable evidence for this? I've not even read this as a conspiracy theory.

As for what happened under J. Edgar Hoover, that's rather astonishing.

There have been problems with the CIA (Iran/Contra, drugs, developing wars & regime change internationally, &c).

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The FBI, the CIA, the NSA, Homeland Security, FEMA, the Secret Service, Federal Marshals, and many more agencies, organizations, and positions have been used by corrupt parties for the past seventy years to commit legal and quasi-legal sins, all in the name of furthering globalist control (what I often refer to as the GovCorp, because these people can be found anywhere someone brings corporate ideas into government... so, everywhere)

You ask for evidence like we could take these people to court, or something. You are living in the world they created for you. Now, I have family and close friends with family who are involved in one or all of these groups. I'm not saying there is some grand conspiracy involving every single member of each group, but to blindly ignore the subtle loopholes they've used to legally consolidate power is just plain foolish. The FBI and a few other groups could come and take either of us away right now, and no governmental agency or watch-group would do a damned thing about it, even if they were lucky enough to get proof.

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Which is why it's important to change the leaders of these organizations as much as possible, by arranging relatively democratic elections of public servants who will hopefully challenge any potential corruption. What you note is corruption - among other problems - that must be challenged with government oversight, regulation &c. Each agency has been more or less corrupt in different eras. The extent of corruption around the world is exacerbated by authoritarian and nationalist governments that try to reduce democratic representation, agencies, regulation and oversight. Whereas I agree with your points, I am concerned that there is an increasing tendency to believe right-wing news medias' approaches to simplify what we know about government agencies, in order to reduce govenment and thus regulations on corporations that help protect important sectors of society (environment, education, small businesses, social programs, healthcare, &c). When there are problems with the FBI, I hope there will be enough funding for associated government agencies and individuals to challenge the FBI. In the meantime, I hope they catch the fucker who stole Pelosi's laptop (and other criminals).

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"that must be challenged with government oversight, regulation"

Bullshit. This has gone on long enough. You want the establishment to fix the establishment. What a fantasy you live in, socks. Seriously, wisen up, fella.

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That's how the American experiment was arranged, and then rearranged in the early 20th century under FDR and some of his predecessors.

If you want a revolution, consider the consequences.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    How do you know, patrician?

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Thanks for this. I didn't know about Piper. I'll have a closer look. Perhaps you refer to 'Judas Goats'. What I see initially is not convincing to me, and perhaps many others, about Piper's potential understanding of the FBI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Collins_Piper). The FBI under Hoover was sketchy. Not sure about the FBI today. It seems that Piper's research assesses mainly the Hoover admin FBI, but I'll have a look.

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Which part of that list of his books is innacurate? There's nothing controversial about that page. I also mentioned that I would read about Piper. Seems you can't prove your points about the FBI, or Wikipedia. Piper's work is not reliable evidence.