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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A monetary system not controlled by the government.

No monetary system is controlled by the government. The Federal Reserve controls US currency and it is a PRIVATE bank. Bitcoin is funded by fiat currency. You buy it from people who print bitcoins using paper printed by the federal reserve. The value of bitcoin is entirely determined by how much federal reserve notes have been traded for bitcoins. The people who bought trillions of dollars of bitcoin are the bankers who had trillions of dollars. The bankers can print and buy a controlling share of bitcoin.

The same people who own the dollar own bitcoin.

Except bitcoin is inharently tracked every transaction. It is fiat currency without any possibility of privacy.

All digital currency is every tyrants wet dream.

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

While I don't necessarily disagree, I look at some of this in a different light....

While USD is a fiat, Constitutionally the government is banned from issuing fiat or deeming it legal tender. Unfortunately, that has been manipulated with corrupt court rulings long ago. Bankers will tell you it is not fiat, but instead backed with asset purchases of financial securities and federal bonds. Yet, financial securities are just buying fiat from other banks, and federal bonds are just buying rights to a loan someone made to the federal government.

The FED controls USD supply, is just private bankers pretending to be an objective authority, and isn't controlled by the government. Yet the government does the actual printing of USD, albeit at the FED's direction. The Constitution gives Congress control over regulating US currency, foreign currencies, securities, and anything like a currency in the US. Congress is therefore fully complicit in allowing the credit card companies, banks, and the FED's tyranny over the people. They likely allow it to continue by their beneficial collusion and to be lazy, as the FED preforms national currency duties that the Constitution demands of Congress.

Bitcoin is a new concept that doesn't fit old rules. It is a fiat, by being an un-backed vessel for wealth. Yet, it has intrinsic value through being really good at doing this; a vessel that can represent wealth, assets, or items, with an immutable value, high censorship resistance, some programmability such as contracts, that is permission-less, trust-less, pseudo-anonymous, and which can be transferred typically within seconds. It also facilities a modern green world financial solution, despite complaining of its energy usage for security being made by bankers from atop their sky scrapers, whom use a dozen office buildings and hundreds of physical banks, with tons of infrastructure to facilitate a database of accounts.

You only need to wait longer for higher security. For Bitcoin 10 minutes for at least one confirm is okay for regular sized amounts. Current credit card systems can't even do this. They transact in seconds... but actually take hours, days, or weeks to actually settle.

Blockchain analysis has proven very privacy destroying, despite the pseudo-anonymous design. This is mostly due to use of heavily surveilled fiat to purchase bitcoin, then redeem your wealth. You are de-anonymized at the fiat banks, then tracked end-to-end within the otherwise anonymous Bitcoin...actually, the surveillance of the Internet also allows a similar side-channel attack, that could possibly observe the IP address of nodes involved in replaying a memtable transaction.

The US government's own recent analysis of the possibility of a national digital currency, proclaimed the dire need of anonymity, despite the draconian attack of privacy cryptocurrencies. The US government loves to track and analyzer our every credit card purchase. It also desperately wants the ability to filter your international transactions, so it can enforce its xenophobic foreign sanctions.

These scary world bank plans are even worse. They require doxing members of every transaction, sharing their info with dozens of sketch countries, including name address dob, employment wages, and even life insurance policy value. Some of the plans want this shared with private, non-government, non-central-bank parties. Scary shit. Don't worry though, the US already pledged to do so.

[–]bucetao6969[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have Canbot in my trusted users list but these particular takes of his are pretty dumb. He's acting like an chatGPT NPC when it comes to this, shouting the predefined responses you have when you give it certain prompts.

Good riddance to still try and reason with him, but the concept of a bitcoin is a bit difficult to explain to people anywway especially when we had things like the retarded NFT wave and the constant cryptocurrency scams.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know, I never thought of it that way. I’ve always looked at it as an alternative to a digital fiat currency, which can not only be tracked, but also restricted or manipulated in any way, at any time, on any level, on a whim.

Cash is sadly dying. Freedom gave way to convenience. Lesser of two evils, maybe.