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[–]joogabah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Marxists are not opponents of capitalism. They are awed by it. But they see it as a transitional state, one that at a certain point becomes overwhelmed by its own contradictions. To be blind to the trajectory of capitalism is just as erroneous as to be blind to its accomplishments. Marx compared it to a tie on a sapling that helps its growth early on but distorts it if left for too long. Capitalism is not evil. It is antiquated. The evidence is that private property, divided into competing national states, threatens to end all life on the planet, via nuclear war, climate change and overpopulation. Exponential growth has limits. Capitalist thinking tends to ignore "dialectics" or the idea that change is fundamental to our reality. Everything is born, grows and then dies. Quantitative changes eventually turn into qualitative changes that can negate the earlier condition. The same is true of capitalist markets and private property. They are human innovations, appropriate to their time, not eternal unchanging truths.

[–]ctvzbuxr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What an interesting perspective, to view people's property rights as a transitional state.
"Yes, you own that thing you workd hard for, but only as long as we deem it appropriate, and once we decide to have our revolution we will take it from you at a whim, in order to alleviate you from such an antiquated burden."
The truth is, people could already live in socialism right now if they wanted to. Socialists all around the world could put their money in a big pool, govern it as they see fit, and no capitalist in the world would do anything to prevent it. The truth is, capitalists have no problem with socialism either, as long as it's voluntary. But the truth is, voluntary socialism is just another form of capitalism. Capitalism is simply what you get when you let people choose how they govern what is rightfully theirs.