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[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What's stopping you from both owning capital and property and also owning rural land that can actually sustaining you? It's not one or the other per se. You can absolutely grow wealth through the System and reinvest that into growing a community that's independent.

Power may be concentrated in the urban centers, but it's usually toppled by the hinterlands, this has been shown time and time again. War of the Flea is an excellent book on that. Having a self sustaining parallel domain in the rural areas means that the System can't stamp you out, and over time the cities will decay while you grow. This has happened time and time again, in recent years China, Vietnam, and just recently Afghanistan have all demonstrated this.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you've got so much wealth that you can buy farms at your leisure, then you'll probably be fine no matter what, if you ask me. But assuming that you have limited resources, trying to become a farmer is not necessarily the best investment, and it is certainly not something everyone can do.

Power may be concentrated in the urban centers, but it's usually toppled by the hinterlands, this has been shown time and time again.

I am actually not aware of any examples of this happening, though I am sure there may be some of them. In my opinion, the historical norm is competition between imperial cities. Warrior nomads can occasionally conquer these imperial cities, but they also immediately make them the seat of their power, so the urban-rural dynamic remains the same.

Having a self sustaining parallel domain in the rural areas means that the System can't stamp you out, and over time the cities will decay while you grow.

I think in America both the cities and the countryside are decaying rapidly, but the countryside is definitely still subject to the rule of the cities, even as they decay. You may have heard, for example, that the US government (and other Western governments, too) often resettle large groups of refugees or illegal immigrants in rural areas and towns. Liberal governments today have completely political authority over any part of the country. I do not think the countryside enjoys any special advantages over the urban centres.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you've got so much wealth that you can buy farms at your leisure, then you'll probably be fine no matter what, if you ask me.

Rural land is cheap as hell in America and you can get a 0 down mortgage for a rural house if you're lower income. I don't know that I would be recommending the same thing outside of the American context tbh.

I am actually not aware of any examples of this happening, though I am sure there may be some of them. In my opinion, the historical norm is competition between imperial cities. Warrior nomads can occasionally conquer these imperial cities, but they also immediately make them the seat of their power, so the urban-rural dynamic remains the same.

Revolutionary movements usually swell up from the hinterlands, it's there that men can hide for a long period of time away from authorities and sustain themselves among the peasants while attacking the cities from the outside. In the modern context this would happen by attacking power, water, and road infrastructure. Destroying a few critical junctions could cripple the most important cities for months. The recent truck blockade in Canada is the baby version of these tactics.

Historical examples could go all the way back to the Germanic tribes or the Scythians, but for the modern context the Maoists, Vietcong, and Taliban are the most relevant.

War of the Flea is something everyone here should read.

I do not think the countryside enjoys any special advantages over the urban centres.

They have the advantage of space, distance, and self-sustenance. Independence from the supply chain of the enemy.