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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The anti-communist movement of the cold war was a CIA psyop. It was their ploy to destroy the isolationist and America first movement. Getting conservatives to embrace global wars of intervention and sanctions.

This is going to sound controversial but doing absolutely nothing to oppose Communism would have been a disaster. In fact, I wonder how many of you guys actually read the comic? Because it explained early on that after the revolution in Russia, the Reds tried to spread their beliefs to the rest of the world. Even during WW2, when Hitler signed the non aggression pact with Stalin, Stalin still went ahead and invaded the Baltics and Finland. He also mass murdered Polish officers and the educated class, which shocked the Germans when they uncovered it.

It's impossible to be 100% isolationist in a vacuum, since the Soviets never practiced it. Look at Afghanistan? The Soviets had meddled there first and they had occupied the country for almost a decade before it became America's problem. Or look in Africa, and the Soviets were training rebels to attack South Africa, Portugal & Rhodesia.

Opposition to Communism was not a bad thing, it was the methods and lack of restraint on the U.S part that had negative blowbacks. For example, America shouldn't have personally sent troops to Vietnam. But there would have been nothing wrong with sending aid and weapons to the South Vietnamese instead.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

what if USA stayed allies with russia after WWII, what if USA and Russia teamed up to take over Afghanistan in the 80s?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Wouldn't happen, since Germany was already being split between the two new powers, and Korea was undergoing the same process.

Unless the USA completely hands over these nations to the Soviets, but then the Western countries would have no reason to trust them.

Edit: And the Soviets invaded Afghanistan to support their puppet government. America doing the same thing would look like a complete betrayal to the Western world.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

USA and russia had divied up europe, including parts of germany. So they were allies at that point, having agreed on all that. Since then though of course the phony cold war was started by mutual agreement, to give each side a boogeyman. Nowadays the boogey men proaganda is still alive.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You lost me at the last part.

They were never allies in the sense that America was fine with the Soviet's ideology, and vice versa. This is further proven when you looked at each country they occupied. Stalin had even threaten to blockade Berlin, which lead to the infamous air lift to stop the Germans from starving. The Soviets had also stolen America's nuclear plans and exploded bombs against their permission.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That was propaganda. They were allies the whole time, while of course not giving a shit if their people starved or not. USSR was run by US corporations.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's easy to say for someone who never lived through those events.

No, the Cold War was real.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

did you live in russia, and had a hard life including starvation?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If I did, it would only validate what I'm saying.

Food shortages have always been a Communist problem. In the West (where I live), it is not hard to come by.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was trying to wonder why you thought that. USSR definitely starved their people. Still doesn't change the facts. USA didn't care about that. They starved more after the USSR collapsed though.