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    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (139 children)

    This includes child sexual abuse. Even if the media has done its best to cultivate the image of a bespectacled, fat white male sex offender, blacks molest, rape and physically abuse their children at higher rates both per capita and in general, only beaten out by native Americans.

    Those sources only refer to the race of the victim.

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      [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (137 children)

      In almost every case, the race of the victim and the perpetrator are the same.

      Do you have a source on that one?

      There are no white guys driving around to molest black girls.

      How do you know that it's not that there's no black mothers reporting rapes of the daughters by white guys to the police, because the police are, in some areas, hostile to the black population?

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        [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You look at their posts and literally they read like movie scripts that Hollywood is producing. That's their reality and nothing else matters. They actually think blacks live in a perpetual state of fear and that there are people who look like Richard Spencer dressed in polo shirts driving around in black neighbourhoods just abducting black kids and raping them while the authorities keep quiet -- or probably take part in their demented fantasy world! Meanwhile the only real life example of anything even close to this type of thing is Muslims racially targeting white girls in Britain while the authorities actively sought to avoid prosecution which is a story most of them are in denial about or just plain don't care.

        Its not clown world it's movie world.

        [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (113 children)

        A large problem with rape in particular is that a small minority are reported. Contributing to this problem is that a tiny minority of reported crimes end in a prosecution.

        If you're aware that race doesn't bias the reporting of child molestation, show me the data that supports that: Because I'd be interested to know.

        I do know that there are instances of under-reporting of rape of black women by white men. Victims of Daniel Holtzclaw said that they didn't report being raped by him because "I didn't think anyone would believe me. I'm a black female."

        [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (74 children)

        LOL you make up some fake story about white men raping black women then the only example you can find is someone who isn't even white. Hilarious level of talmudry ya got there rabbi.

        [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (73 children)

        I point out that in at least some instances black women don't report rape because they feel that being a black women, they won't be believed.

        I mention this because a source is coming from /u/Mastermustard03 for his claim that "In almost every case, the race of the victim and the perpetrator are the same.", and the data is going to be difficult to interpret if it is convicted rapes, or even reported rapes.

        But let him know that half-white half-Japanese is not white. He'll have to show that they are almost always raped by other half-white, half Japanese people.

        [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (72 children)

        Those rapes are obviously by black men, it's true the vast majority of rape has the victim and perpetrator being the same race.

        As for the nonsense about black people apparently thinking they won't be believed for being black just fucking lol. Did you just wake up from a 150 year coma? Black people can record white people and get their lives ruined, when the white people have done literally nothing. Black people routinely get away with crimes, up to murder, against white people.

        There are exactly zero black people who believe they're discriminated against in America for being black, and coincidentally also exactly zero black people being raped by white people. Whereas there's tens of thousands of black on white rapes every year.

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          [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

          A large problem with rape in particular is that a small minority are reported.

          How could you possibly know that and how can anyone objectively determine whether a rape has occurred without evidence or a trial? Are you basing this on self-reporting?

          If you're aware that race doesn't bias the reporting of child molestation, show me the data that supports that: Because I'd be interested to know.

          It doesn't work like that, freindo. If you're making the allegation of bias you have to prove it and not sit there and ask for evidence against your own as of now evidence free assertion.

          Victims of Daniel Holtzclaw said that they didn't report being raped by him because "I didn't think anyone would believe me. I'm a black female."

          Yeah who would believe a Black woman who reported a rape. Look at how the awful racist White media and law enforcement completely denied that Tawana Brawley and Crystal Magnum of the Duke Lacrosse incident were raped. No one in the country would do ANYTHING because no one believes a Black woman if she says she's been raped by racists or a frat. /s

          You seriously aren't in touch with reality.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Don't let cases of women blowing shit out of proportion or even lying for the sake of retaliation obscure your view. I can honestly say that out of the many women that I've known, there's not been many that haven't at minimum experienced some level of molestation. That's not considering cases of women that will bring it up in an extremely awkward way, like where you can tell that they've got some degree of BPD going on and go off on a weird tangeant at social gatherings almost.. pridefully? It's so off and disconnected, and has happened in several different instances, and very much akin to attention-seeking tactics. My old male friend group had a lot of cluster B female orbiters though. Anyhow, yeah-- you'll see a bunch of these cases in the media, but that's not a realistic gauge for what's actually happening. Rape brings on a shame that a number of women would rather ignore than have to psychologically come to terms with and seek out the justice system for.

          [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

          How could you possibly know that and how can anyone objectively determine whether a rape has occurred without evidence or a trial?

          You survey a sample of people.

          If you're making the allegation of bias you have to prove it and not sit there and ask for evidence against your own as of now evidence free assertion.

          I asked "How do you know that it's not that there's no black mothers reporting rapes of the daughters by white guys to the police, because the police are, in some areas, hostile to the black population?"

          As part of my request for a source on the claim: "In almost every case, the race of the victim and the perpetrator are the same."

          I didn't "allege" anything, friendo. But if you're going to allege that "In almost every case, the race of the victim and the perpetrator are the same", you need to supply the evidence, for your as of now evidence free assertion.

          [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

          You survey a sample of people.

          That's not objective data. That's personal opinion and means someone is alleging a crime has been committed. Do these surveys also interview the alleged rapist and ask them their opinion about whether a rape has been committed? We have this wonderful Anglo-Saxon tradition of juris prudence where you're innocent until PROVEN guilty. It's fantastic and means I can't just say 'ActuallyNot' is a pedophile without evidence. There's actually no way to truthfully claim 'most rapes aren't reported' because the only way in any reasonable society to determine if a rape has occurred or not is by subjecting the claim to proper scrutiny. Personal opinion does not mean a rape has necessarily occurred.

          I asked "How do you know that it's not that there's no black mothers reporting rapes of the daughters by white guys to the police, because the police are, in some areas, hostile to the black population?"

          No you said "If you're aware that race doesn't bias the reporting of child molestation, show me the data that supports that: Because I'd be interested to know." In other words you asked the other guy to disprove your evidence free assertion of bias. It doesn't work like that. You make the assertion, and you back it up. You don't ask people to disprove your own claim with evidence. And another point about your quote about Black rape is that you're doing the exact same thing. You're saying 'how do you know my totally speculative and evidence free assertion isn't happening???'. You seem to not understand the basics of debating.

          But if you're going to allege that "In almost every case, the race of the victim and the perpetrator are the same", you need to supply the evidence, for your as of now evidence free assertion.

          It's not my claim -- I'm sure it's true though -- but I'm sure if Mustard can be bothered he'll look that up for you and prove it true.

          [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

          This is the same user that didn't believe me when I told him blacks we're responsible for America's high gun crime rates. I showed him a credible article that proved young black men literally get shot 20x more than young white men. He believes it is because racist white people drive to the ghetto, shoot blacks, then leave, without being prosecuted, as an explanation, lololol. He's playing dumb. Dont bother.

          [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Do these surveys also interview the alleged rapist and ask them their opinion about whether a rape has been committed?

          Generally you don't track them down, no. That would be a lot more expensive study that a random survey.

          We have this wonderful Anglo-Saxon tradition of juris prudence where you're innocent until PROVEN guilty.

          This is not part of the justice system.

          In other words you asked the other guy to disprove your evidence free assertion of bias

          Either there is or there isn't. There's anecdotal evidence that race is a barrier to reporting rapes, as I have linked to.

          It needs evidence on both sides. But he hasn't even shown his evidence for "In almost every case, the race of the victim and the perpetrator are the same." Yet, so lets leave the discussion of reporting bias until we understand the data he's referring to, as that will affect its relevance.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          I'm not going to deny that there probably is a fear of being ignored with a number of rape cases. I recall talking to my grandmother about some rather fucked up situations where victims were chastised into staying silent for the sake of the man's family, even. So it wouldn't surprise if a black woman would be afraid of speaking up about rape from a white man. Rape isn't necessarily an attraction driven violence, and outside of that there are plenty of white men attracted to black women. However Daniel Holtzclaw is half Japanese, and would be considered a poc outside of the context where he's a criminal or it's convenient.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

          common sense says that, black women are ugly so no white men want to molest them

          [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

          What kind of children do you find not ugly enough that you want to molest them?

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

          All of them.

          [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

          Paedophile

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          No, children look like potatoes. Dumbass.

          [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          And you don't find potatoes ugly enough that you don't want to molest them?

          Paedophile. Tuberosumophile.

          [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

          how do you know that it's not that

          This is an appeal to ignorance my nigger friend.

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            [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

            Attempts at shifting the burden of proof is a common tactic among kikes also. Welcome brother and Shalom.

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              [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              How do you know that it's not that there's no black mothers reporting rapes of the daughters by white guys to the police

              This is an attempt at shifting the burden of proof. Nice try nigger.

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                [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Are you suggesting you lack the ability to be discern race, and the related abilities and characteristics?

                [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                No. I'm suggesting that if there are fewer proportional rapes of white women by black men than of black women by white men, there are a few possible reasons for that.

                One is that it reflects the incidence of rapes

                One is that it reflect the rate of reporting of rapes

                One is that it reflects the conviction rate of reported rapes.