The wrong side won WW2.

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

GOP and "alt right" want to sow hatred and division between groups, to let them know they aren't included.

I have a question for you? Can you explain why this "racist" Nazi is sitting next to a room full of black people?

https://files.catbox.moe/g36m8r.jpg

That's the infamous George Rockwell, and yet he had no hatred for Malcolm X. Both leaders wanted the same thing. Racial separation. Yet their requests were denied. What makes one side more hateful than other, when they were both willing to agree to it back then?

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Again - you've plucked from history a micro-example - indeed just a person - to make a very broad point that cannot be argued with micro examples. There is a field of history called, micro history, but it's mainly focused on providing more information about a context, rather than taking examples out of context. I am also not a fan of Malcolm X, who was critical of the Civil Rights movement, preferring - where possible - relatively violent methods of change.

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Again - you've plucked from history a micro-example - indeed just a person - to make a very broad point that cannot be argued with micro examples.

No, it's a pretty major example. Segregation had not actually been outlawed in the U.S, hence why Malcolm X & Rockwell were allowed to support their ideas and even opposed the government from taking it all away.

It's like saying the alt-right today is a micro example of anti-immigration, even though Joe Biden or Trump talked about it when they were in office.

I am also not a fan of Malcolm X, who was critical of the Civil Rights movement, preferring - where possible - relatively violent methods of change.

And why do you think that was? He was a black man, so it can't be "white supremacism" that the media likes to smear.

Maybe... just maybe, he wanted racial separation because it was the more moral option? Giving blacks their own country would mean Blacks would be in charge of their own governments, their own schools, their own police force, their own hospitals. No one would be able to pin the blame on Whites or complain they were somehow a bad influence.