Massive Bolsonaro rallies in Brazil

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https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1435383826167984129

I don't think Trump ever got crowds even close to as big as these. I'm really not up to speed on what's going on in Brazil, any Brazilians around here care to fill us in?

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[–]VacaLeitera 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

After COVID, the economy tanked and Bolsonaro's approval took a hit. This and Trump's ousting have made Bolsonaro's political situation very fragile. The media as well as institutions such as the corrupt supreme federal court (whose members were almost all appointed by the previous leftist governments) were emboldened to launch a final assault against him and his supporters. Right-wingers are being persecuted and jailed and censorship both by the supreme court and social media companies is running rampant. The judiciary branch has effectively taken control of the government by issuing unconstitutional rulings and Bolsonaro is powerless. Brazil being a banana republic and the congress being an amorphous corrupt mess means there is no check to judiciary overreach. The globalist media is cheering them on and calling opponents of the judiciary branch terrorists and anti-democratic.

The rallies focused mostly on attacking the supreme court, demanding freedom of speech and supporting Bolsonaro ahead of the 2022 election, when the establishment's plan is to install criminal ex-president Lula, who would suck the dicks of both the globalists and China and implement every single pozzed agenda. It's estimated that 30% of Brazil's military police have been to the protests. The military is also fairly based and usually defends the president. That is probably his best shot at keeping power, to do as the bolsheviks and seize it by force, although unlikely.

The brazilian media is going insane at the moment. Most outlets are not even reporting on the crowds or minimizing them and hiding their size, while focusing on anti-government protests by maskers and communists. After yesterday, congress, the governors and judiciary are panicking and possibly about to move to either impeach Bolsonaro or make him ineligible to run. Such enormous crowd sizes must be sending chills down their spine.

To sum up, I think Bolsonaro's situation is very similar to Donald Trump's. Except Bolsonaro has more balls. Yesterday he repeated he will either be killed or win the next election. He also issued an order banning censorship by social media companies. Bolsonaro and his supporters are better than Trump and MAGA in almost every way, but the country is in a much worse state and there is no such thing in Brazil as the GOP or FOX News. The institutions are totally leftist, of the worst kind you can imagine. The mass of people he can mobilize and to some extent his military support are the only things that still keep him afloat.

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    [–]VacaLeitera 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    A Lula government would be chaotic and would radicalize things even more. He wouldn't be able to govern without betraying his voter base. The Congress is firmly pro-business and pro-capital and that won't change anytime soon. If he tries to implement a leftist economic program, the media will turn against him in a heartbeat and he will be ousted in disgrace. I can also imagine the military making constant veiled threats in case the government loses support. What certainly will be implemented though is the standard globalist authoritarian package with vax passes, censorship, and even more POZ. His brand will probably be ruined if he is elected because the economic situation is likely to go south. Brazil's debt is already sky high.

    Globo is accused of being right-wing by the PT and leftists who don't like that they used to report on the gigantic corruption scandals that happened under their governments. In reality it's globalist and 'progressive' and in the recent years went into full hysteria mode as Bolsonaro cut all state funding to their network. The criticism from Globo against the PT government was based on issues such as corruption and economic policy as well as being seen as "retrograde" - read not globalist and liberal enough. They would certainly prefer a more capital-friendly centrist government but are willing to accept Lula to get rid of Bolsonaro. To be fair there are some news organizations like Record (which belongs to the Universal Church) that take a neutral stance and even sometimes support the president. But the bulk of his media presence is online.

    The majority of parties in Brazil are corrupt organizations that represent very little but local and oligarchic interests. They will support whoever they need to in order to maintain their influence in ministerial positions and secure funding for local projects. Now that Bolsonaro is weak, they are jumping ship and getting ready to support whoever comes next, but were more than happy to work with him when his popularity was sky high. Bolsonaro's base is fractured across many parties, all big-tent and broadly "conservative" and linked to the agribusiness, religious organizations, military and police interests and some few but influential actual right-wingers with ties to the American right and philosopher Olavo de Carvalho.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Bolsonaro and his supporters are better than Trump and MAGA in almost every way

    In what way? He seems to be another charlatan like Trump who's passionate support is a reaction to the passionate hate he gets from the Left and media in a very divided country.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Not to get too conspiratorial but I couldn't help but wonder if that whole fiasco the other day with the Argentina match wasn't somehow designed to reflect badly on Bolspnaro. Am I way off base there or wad it just typical bungling by Brazilian beaurecracy?

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      [–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      as if that would be a serious thing in a country with a 54% black population and < 10% White population

      Almost 50% of Brazil's population self-identifies as white. That being said, a lot of the self-identifying "whites" in Brazil aren't actually really white, but rather "pardos" (meaning castizos or even mestizos), unlike with whites in the US (who are 98% genetically white on average). So Brazil's actual white population is definitely much less than the official almost 50% figure, but it's also very unlikely that it's as low as only 10% (unless you're going by the one drop rule, which is peak autism in my opinion, even more so in such a mixed third world country). True blacks are actually a small minority of less than 10% in Brazil (much like in the US), but of course a lot of self-identified "pardos" have large amounts of black ancestry.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      but it's also very unlikely that it's as low as only 10% (unless you're going by the one drop rule, which is peak autism in my opinion, even more so in such a mixed third world country).

      I would be careful with this. Brazil is a case example of what happens when you treat whiteness as a sliding scale instead of something with hard boundaries. In practice, this is a big failure, because even the Whitest parts of the country (i.e Sao Paulo) still have crime levels and poverty that's higher than any European country.

      So the 10% figure is correct.

      [–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      What would be your “hard boundaries”?

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Only two Japanese parents can make a Japanese baby.

      Therefore, only Two European parents can make someone who is actually white.

      If Brazil wants to become a White country, then their immigration needs more actual European stock. But according to wikipedia, the majority of newcomers are Venezuelans and Haitians. with the first European country (Portugual) only showing up in 10th place. That's not good enough, sorry.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Brazil#Current_trends

      [–]Ponderer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I have to say, these crowd sizes are very impressive. Thank you for sharing this.

      [–]Salos60000Pragmatic European Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Gonna give an unpopular opinion. I don't like Bolsanaro at all mainly due to his policy regarding the Amazon and environment. The destruction of the Amazon would accelerate the climate crisis, meaning more conflict, more migrants and the clock moving ever closer to midnight for us. Brazil in my opinion was never really ours, I think the path for Whites in Brazil is either succession in the South or migration to surrounding nations.