Even when Blacks are a demographic majority, they still call themselves oppressed.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Do you not know that every response here is false? If you do not know, and if you want to know what specifically is false about each statement, let me know and I will provode the answers. If you genuinely believe everything you've written here, this indicates that you've not had a reasonable education, or have studied history texts that would explain all of this. I wonder if you are genuinely interested in this history. Let me know if you'd like an explanation.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

If you genuinely believe everything you've written here, this indicates that you've not had a reasonable education, or have studied history texts that would explain all of this.

I'm more curious how you can claim to know history, but can't even name a single Black civilization that was directly on par or more powerful than the major European or Asian powers?

Your theory of "northern subjugation" doesn't actually hold any water because Europeans had existed for thousands of years without making contact with Black Africans. By the time Europeans did actually explore Africa, which was what? The 1400s at the earliest? The Africans were no where near being considered their rivals. In fact, we have a name for this era. The Age of Exploration. The Dutch, the British, the French, the Spanish and the Portuguese where basically the major civilizations at this point who possessed technology to explore the world and conquer primitive tribes with their muskets. If you can't explain why Native Africans were never part of this same Arms Race, then you are being dishonest with your racial gap theories.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Do you genuinely want to know what is false about all of your responses? Answer the question. This additional comment appears to be an attempt to avoid discussing facts. There are also serious factual errors here. I will not respond to these comments unless you want the information (which it seems you've not wanted to study).

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Answer my question. You're convinced there's a "Northern conspiracy" to oppress those living in the Southern hemisphere. I just explained to you there was a large window in history where Europeans didn't even travel to the heart of Africa. What were the Blacks doing before White people met them?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I answered the "black civilization" question. It's obviously a trick question because no single ethnic group ruled "the planet". Your claim that Europeans ruled the planet is obviously false. You've made false statements that are historically wrong and logically wrong. If you want to know about them, let me know. Continuing a thread with answers is stupid. I'll offer to help you with the historical and logical problems, and then I'm done. It's a good offer. Take it or leave it. Moreover, you are defintely not a "centrist".

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I answered the "black civilization" question. It's obviously a trick question because no single ethnic group ruled "the planet".

British is an ethnic group. French is an ethnic group. All these groups put together have a pattern or form the European race as we know today. Even if we just used the British alone, we know the British empire existed. Guess how much landmass it took up?

35 million km2, or 26% of the Earth's complete surface area. Now do the same with Russia, or China, or Spain, and the answer remains the same. Only European or Asian races have had this much success with ruling over the globe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires

Edit: And oh yeah. Before you try and pull a "gotcha" and bring up colonization, even in the Ancient world, the biggest empires were still genetically European or Asian. So once again, I'm awaiting your answer. WTF were Africans doing this entire time that they've never had empires like the Romans or the Mongols?

If you want to know about them, let me know.

You had the entire last post to say something but you didn't. Nothing I've said is wrong, so go ahead and challenge it.

Moreover, you are defintely not a "centrist".

Being Centrist is not the same as being an idiot.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not everyone in Brazil is retarded. Only the niggers are retarded, just like the niggers everywhere else.

"A parallel study, released this week by the Data Popular Institute, provided further evidence of the racial divide that continues to blight Brazilian society. The wealthiest group of Brazilians – known as "Class A" – was made up of 82.3% white people and just 17.7% African-Brazilians.

In contrast "Class E" – the poorest section of society – was 76.3% African-Brazilian and 23.7% white."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/17/brazil-census-african-brazilians-majority

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

This is really dumb. Instead of requesting information about your statements, you are making additional false statements (no, one ethnic group or similar skin color, or whatever singular group of people, did not rule the planet), and you are shifting the direction of your points to different groups of people. There were also massive ethnic hegemonical groups across Africa , across the Americas, and across Eurasia. All of these groups were relatively mixed, by your standards of ethnicity, skin color, or whatever. Take the examples of the Khanate or Islamic invasions. For hundreds of years they mixed with the local populations. Are those folks "white". Were they purely east Asian? Consider also the Assyrians, Persians and Babylonians. Were those folks "white"? They were NOT European. Consider Turkic groups that spread across Eurasia. So many other examples.

You had the entire last post to say something

Don't be ridiculous. I offered to respond to your points, but it's becoming obvious that you really don't want to learn anything. Thus I should ask before bothering to point out the fallacies.

Being Centrist is not the same as being an idiot.

Are you OK?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You're not intelligent Socks.

All the ethnic groups you mentioned are not Black or related to subsaharan Africa. I don't give a damn if the Persians are not White. Look at a map and you'll notice all those [important] Civilizations were in Europe or Asia.

There were also massive ethnic hegemonical groups across Africa , across the Americas,

These groups were fucking shit in comparison to what existed elsewhere. Notice how when the Europeans made contact with them, they got routinely defeated in warfare? For a better word, they were conquered by superior tribes. That's a fact.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

What is this nonsense about intelligence? Nothing in our discussion requires intelligence, unless you want to consider logical fallacies. With basic historical knowledge you too can undersand people who don't look like you.

So now you are ONLY interested in subsaharan Africa? This is a major shift from your earlier claims, and addresses only a small portion of the world's population. Regarding Africa in general, and partially subsaharan Africa, look up these wealthy and powerful pre-colonial kingdoms, which had control over extensive territories across sections of Africa:

The Mali Empire

The Great Zimbabwe

The Kingdom of Aksum

The Songhai Empire

The Land of Punt

The Kingdom of Kush

The Carthaginian Empire

The Empire of Kanem

The Empire of Ghana

The Fatimid Caliphate

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Ah yes. How could I forget about the mighty Kanem Empire?

Lets see... some of them appear to have rode on horses. But they also fought with sticks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanem%E2%80%93Bornu_Empire#/media/File:Group_of_Kanem-Bu_warriors.jpg

Sorry, but if this is the best Black Africa has got, then they still suck. The Romans not only pioneered advanced military tactics, like the Tetsudo Formation, but they also built impressive siege machines that enabled them to scale through walls.

https://www.worldhistory.org/Roman_Siege_Warfare/

But keep trying to tell me intelligence plays no part in this. Africans never caught up, and today, Black countries are still the most underdeveloped.