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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The only problem I have with TRS is that they glamorize Nazis when it is completely unnecessary.

I don't think 'glamorize' is the right word but yes they are far more woke on the nat soc pill then other dissident circles. If that's something you don't like then there are plenty of other dissidents that take different approaches. TRS isn't for everyone and that's ok.

The holocaust happen a long time ago and there is no reason to resurrect old specters.

The holocaust did not happen. Unless the 'holocaust' is putting Jews in political camps like the Japanese were in except with orchestras and birthing wards for Jews to have babies.

It's interesting you bring up the holocaust because in my opinion that's a deal breaker for dissidents. If you accept the full narrative on the holocaust you really can't be a dissident. Refusing to talk about the holohoax is also excepting the narrative so it's just as bad. I don't expect every dissident to love Hitler or national socialism or esoteric occult vril mysticism though. People that force Hitler worship onto dissidents are either feds or autists that don't realize how stigmatized Hitler is in the normiesphere. Hitler is one of the last pills to take that's for sure.

There is a way to side step their narratives by just talking about the right of ethnic self determination and using The UN and Jewish definitions against them

Agreed but many dissidents have tried this holocaust avoidance thing and it always makes them look bad. Tom Metzger stands out as an example. The minute you refuse to take a position on the holocaust any person that interviews you is going to pound that and make you look weak and like a closet fascist. It's not a good approach in my opinion and it failed miserably in the 90's when it was tried.

It will not necessarily give us power, but we will always have the moral high ground in our propaganda.

Sure, and Taylor does this correctly but Taylor is the exception to the rule. Most dissidents are on Taylor's level though. They look like they're hiding something when asked about the holocaust and it causes the average person to see the dissident as tricky and dishonest.

Germans don't need to rehabilitate the Nazis either, they can tell the world that they have apologized enough and it is time for people to move on.

This is where I disagree respectfully. Jews will never let you just move on and Jews control the minds of a huge chunk of the western world. The way the holocaust lie works is it causes mental trauma and extreme guilt triggers a need for repentance.

My elementary school put three 6th grade classrooms together in the library and wheeled in a vhs player and TV cart to show us the unedited Shindler's list complete with nude bodies and heads getting blown off. You can't just tell people: yeah sure that totally happened let's just move on! No, the average white person eats that guilt up and it becomes almost a religion to them and it colors their entire political life cycle. Jews know this. It's why they installed the programming in the first place. Break the programming first. Break the founding myth and everything flows from there.

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The holocaust did not happen. Unless the 'holocaust' is putting Jews in political camps like the Japanese were in except with orchestras and birthing wards for Jews to have babies.

In war, they often lock up potential foreign enemies because they might be spies or undermine the national security of the state and war effort. In foreign invasions, forced labor is common strategy because it supplements production and reduces the risk of losing the war because of lost supply lines. This is also why when a military retreats from a defensible position they might raze buildings and destroy farm land because it is better if the nobody has access to it than the enemy. The treatment in forced labor camps is not exactly luxurious; the captives working camps sometimes die of overwork, reprisals, illness and diseases.

What you should emphasis is that everyone was doing that in the war including violent reprisals. There is not a strict delineation between non combatants and combatants in a war between countries. the non combatants indirectly support the war effort through taxation and labor that creates a society that can sustain a military war effort. Jewish elites were a major part of World War II and just because they don't have an official military doesn't make them not an enemy threat they should be dealt with. If you participate and help incite a world war and don't have an army, whose fault is that? Wars are between nations and nobody buys it that these Jewish elites were not acting in the interests of Jews.

It's interesting you bring up the holocaust because in my opinion that's a deal breaker for dissidents. If you accept the full narrative on the holocaust you really can't be a dissident. Refusing to talk about the holohoax is also excepting the narrative so it's just as bad. I don't expect every dissident to love Hitler or national socialism or esoteric occult vril mysticism though. People that force Hitler worship onto dissidents are either feds or autists that don't realize how stigmatized Hitler is in the normiesphere. Hitler is one of the last pills to take that's for sure.

The validity of the holocaust isn't important because it is no longer a historical event in occupied countries but a sacred religious event that cannot be questioned. Attacking someone's deeply held religious beliefs will not win support because they didn't come to these beliefs through intellectual inquiry. The fact Jews use the holocaust as a bludgeon against all Europeans makes them look bad when you point this out and turn it back on them.

Why should we feel guilty after our ancestors liberated your ancestors from "death" camps"?

Why are we obligated to cater to your interests based on how you treated us in the past and how you treat us now?

If we are obligated to take your people as refugees in the past and open our borders to mass immigration, why are you not taking refugees, opening borders and continue to genocide Palestinians?

We never justify a victim of a bully to lash out at against all of society, why do Jews get this special exception?

My point, is you can easily side step their narratives by talking about how they acted before WWII and post WWII.

Agreed but many dissidents have tried this holocaust avoidance thing and it always makes them look bad.

Ask them how it is relevant to the current political discussion? It is a non-sequitur almost every time it is brought up. Also, bringing it up can be used as evidence of Jewish outsized influence in White countries. Why is the goto reply always Jews? White people are not inherently evil beings and there many cases where they are far more merciful and fair to other racial groups even when they are enemies.

My elementary school put three 6th grade classrooms together in the library and wheeled in a vhs player and TV cart to show us the unedited Shindler's list complete with nude bodies and heads getting blown off. You can't just tell people: yeah sure that totally happened let's just move on! No, the average white person eats that guilt up and it becomes almost a religion to them and it colors their entire political life cycle. Jews know this. It's why they installed the programming in the first place. Break the programming first. Break the founding myth and everything flows from there.

You can break the programming of the holocaust without talking directly about the holocaust. You can talk about other victims of history, especially Europeans in the hands of other groups. The holocaust only appears to have a stranglehold on White people because Jews control the culture and media. The average White person doesn't consciously care about the holocaust except "conservative" political figures, leftists and Jews. The primary goal is to get Whites to care about other White people as a group and understanding the existential threat of White replacement.

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The primary goal is to get Whites to care about other White people as a group and understanding the existential threat of White replacement.

What about Whites who are so retarded and dysfunctional that they believe in the anti-White propaganda?

What about Whites who "used to be a leftist/liberal/ally/etc, but now I'm woke"?

I don't believe those people qualify as 'White', since it's far more than just skin color. To me, anyway. I know there are a lot of people with low or no standards.

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What about Whites who are so retarded and dysfunctional that they believe in the anti-White propaganda?

We still should have answers for them, but it takes tiny steps to bring them to the truth. Some people don't need to know the truth about the Holocaust or other events that still have a grasp over their subconscious. It is not lying or soften the message, it is about fighting the right battles in a hostile environment.

What about Whites who "used to be a leftist/liberal/ally/etc, but now I'm woke"?

It depends on the type of White leftist, some people are redeemable and others are not. There should be standards of virtue to be considered a member of a white ethnic group and some acts that are considered irredeemable.