Announcement: SaidIt is a sinking ship • /s/SaidIt. Anyone who cares needs to make an account on any refugee sites we have; e.g. ruqqus.com/+DebateTheDissidentRight, NOW!

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[–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Looks like practically everything pertaining to this is deleted and so no longer on s/all. Had to work out what's going on through people's comment histories through which these threads remain accessible.

So, TAM put us back on s/all even though not that long ago fred_red_beans threatened to ban this sub if it was put back on s/all?

(See: https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/7y7f/users_of_saidit_should_subs_that_dont_violate_the/tpeb)

Then again, one of the admins was said to have 'quit', though TAM claims no one lost their admin status. My guess is that it's 'fred' himself (last comment was 16 days ago, incidentally, the very same one attacking us, see: https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/7xte/smile_and_wave_boys_youre_on_the_sall_now/toba)

Probably we're on s/all because of this thread here, which seems to be an outburst of support for the now permabanned 'JasonCarswell'? https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/7zyb/tam_should_step_down_as_an_admin_and_unban_jason/

Look at our sub's mod log. TAM seems to have purged Salos and even some comments by nordmannen, of all people, despite all of these comments being made months ago.

It looks like there's been a struggle between 'socks' and JC (socks is a pro-Covax Leftist, JC is a Covax skeptic), with JC emerging the loser. This coincides with another conflict between JC and TAM. Note that socks is a prolific Reddidiot (see https://www.reddit.com/user/socks); and all-round Leftist moron. See, for example, all this fighting here: https://saidit.net/s/memes/comments/7zi7/back_to_school/ttvx

The thread that the OP link goes to looks to be from TAM (and has since been deleted, preventing us from seeing from TAM actually wrote).

Another thread that was canned. The usual 'race doesn't matter, values matter, values have no connection to race' moron fschmidt behaving typically in the comment section: https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/7zz3/sdebatealtright_is_now_on_sall/

Admits he gets along with practically everyone but Whites: https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/7zz3/sdebatealtright_is_now_on_sall/tvnc

More related nonsense about JC vs socks: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/7zv7/the_ujasoncarswell_vs_usocks_drama/

In here can be found this link, which appears to be JC's responses to his ban: https://infogalactic.com/info/User:JasonCarswell/temp

Other threads in which JC and socks have been fighting (also socks and Node, the latter of whom was accused of being a loki88 alt making death threats to TAM which loki88 is supposed to have passed on to the webhost to attempt taking Saidit down. Node is probably adjacent to or one of us [posts both here and on the Ruqqus guild under different name]): https://saidit.net/s/Vent/comments/7z24/thank_you_jesus/ https://saidit.net/s/DiscoverSaidit/comments/7zaz/svaccineinjuries_a_new_sub_for_documenting/

Unsurprisingly, at least two of the main players involved are to varying degrees hostile to this sub.

TAM: https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/7y7f/users_of_saidit_should_subs_that_dont_violate_the/tpe8

socks: https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/7y7f/users_of_saidit_should_subs_that_dont_violate_the/tpiu

My view is that it doesn't actually matter which of these people prevails in this power struggle, or even if they all get permabanned.

[–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The problem with Ruqqus:

'JosephGoebells' from Ruqqus since returned to Voat and shared some important information.

captainmeta4 (Adam LaDine) has co-operated with literal AHS'ers in +AgainstChudGuilds (see https://files.catbox.moe/b6mb0w.png).

This AHS person, 'freeday', is literally in Ruqqus' Discord working with the admins/mods. They banned JG and seized his guilds:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/791699824201695255/792423359447171082/RCP19_2.png

This screenshot comes from an entire post on Ruqqus itself, which they haven't deleted, but which exposes all of this:

https://ruqqus.com/+ShillWall/post/63wm/rcp-update-concerning-the-mass-siege

This post is predated by a similar post. The OP is someone who was in their Discord group but who opposed their scheming to rid the site of us and others who AHS want deplatformed (e.g. GenderCritical).

https://ruqqus.com/+ShillWall/post/60wp/an-inside-look-at-the-rcp

This person was revealed and kicked out of the Discord. So who knows what they're plotting now:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787408062809505805/792819422166253579/kicked_2.png

They also planned attacks on various users who they had a problem with:

milkit (who has since been banned):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/791368394842046478/791373752763678720/RCP1_2.png

Xigbar68 (who has also since been banned, and is at voat.xyz):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/791368394842046478/791374094817165323/RCP6_2.png

JG (also the OP in the next link) claims that he was banned by captainmeta4 for 'stalking him' after exposing the site as existing for money laundering. He also claims that admin 'kek' admitted that he, captainmeta4 and carpathianflorist were all Jewish. However, kek later deleted the comment after the information got around.

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost.php?postid=6071c7f103def

There are also claims that Adam LaDine is 'a registered agent for a Chinese company':

https://imgur.com/a/2D7ZEJj

Xigbar68 also wrote a document providing more information about Ruqqus:

https://mega.nz/file/ac5TFCAa#StJFoVFqSNIfcfqTKfb1RTwMZqvTGrIZ_xX9acJ7E8Y

Bardfinn and AHS working with carpathianflorist, etc.:

https://i.ruqqus.com/post/5emh/NUNHtJcJWZk

The consequence of all this is that Ruqqus is dying fast:

Alexa (Ruqqus has fallen from rank 40,756 to 75,130): https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ruqqus.com

Saidit is at rank 68,471, having risen from 99,102 in three months:

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/saidit.net

Which means that Saidit now literally has more traffic than Ruqqus, hilariously as the result of them trying to get rid of the 'Nazis' in order to 'mainstream' or 'professionalize' Ruqqus in the laughable quest to become a Reddit competitor.

Now, the admins themselves claim that all of this is a joke, i.e. that they aren't really working with AHS, but even if it was, they've seized countless guilds and banned a whole heap of users they don't like.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

'JosephGoebells' from Ruqqus since returned to Voat and shared some important information.

captainmeta4 (Adam LaDine) has co-operated with literal AHS'ers in +AgainstChudGuilds (see https://files.catbox.moe/b6mb0w.png PNG ).

Wow. I did not know about this. Thanks for sharing. Were all those guilds removed from ruqqus??

This AHS person, 'freeday', is literally in Ruqqus' Discord working with the admins/mods. They banned JG and seized his guilds:

This is ridiculous. Why is a reddit ahs person working with both saidit and ruqqus site admin? WTF is going on? Is the entire social media sphere just an illusion of choice? Seems like when the dust is settled dissidents are only going to be left with smoke signals for communication. (and I'm sure they will accuse us of cultural appropriation and ban us from buying matches)

Saidit is at rank 68,471, having risen from 99,102 in three months:

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/saidit.net

Which means that Saidit now literally has more traffic than Ruqqus,

I have noticed that ruqqus is drying up. I don't spend much time over there but seem like there's less and less activity.

Which means that Saidit now literally has more traffic than Ruqqus, hilariously as the result of them trying to get rid of the 'Nazis' in order to 'mainstream' or 'professionalize' Ruqqus in the laughable quest to become a Reddit competitor.

Haven't they learned that you use the nazis and anarchists to build your site then ban them when you're big?

Now, the admins themselves claim that all of this is a joke, i.e. that they aren't really working with AHS, but even if it was, they've seized countless guilds and banned a whole heap of users they don't like.

Lol. Typical.

If you don't mind me asking do you have any suggestions for backups? If ruqqus is failing we're going to need another backup (and fast). How's voat.xyz? I've set up a DAR slug group for communication but it's not a vote ranked site so we can't rely on that for a permanent home.

[–]CircumsteinRabbi Circumstein 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Guilds

I keep a list of 'based' guilds that I didn't update since September 2020. I found a heap with no admins and sieged the first one I found. All of the others without admins have been sieged by other users, but I don't know whether these are AHS types or whether they've been retaken by other 'based' people. So, no, even the admins + AHS did not disband these guilds.

Voat

Here's what I've learned so far. I don't think subverses can be made private (they can only be made 'NSFW'), which only means they don't appear for people who have NSFW disabled (default option on user accounts appears to be enabled). There has been very little NSFW content posted (I think I've seen one gore video, Joe_McCarthy from Ruqqus is back on Voat and posts some xxx nonsense [videos, not images] but you have to click on it to actually view it [there are no thumbnails etc. showing the nudity or pornographic content on Voat]). I think if he posted images it would appear in the thumbnail, however. I don't think he'll last that long because everyone hates this guy and downvotes his posts into oblivion.

I've had a look at the comments in some of my non-political subverses. The admin options are currently ('system', that is, the site administrator's account, has been changing these around lately): Pin, Unpin Set_NSFW, Unset_NSFW, Set_Adult, Unset_Adult, Set_Gore, Unset_Gore, Delete, Undelete, Ban, Unban

I have no idea how 'Gore' and 'Adult' relate to 'NSFW'. But 'Gore' and 'Adult' can only be marked on posts and not entire subverses. The showing of 'NSFW' and 'Adult' both appear to be marked on my account by default. There is no personal setting for 'Gore' (so it is probably subsumed by 'NSFW'). Because there are no private subverses either, I'm probably seeing all of the sites content when I view v/all. So if we had a subverse there, we could only really ban problematic individuals from it one-by-one (but we can't hide it from the entire community). There doesn't appear to be any kind of admin menu in order to see things like lists of banned users, admin changes.

Content: There is practically no Leftist content whatsoever (or Leftists in general).

There is some nonpolitical content which usually involves pictures of plants or animals belonging to the users. My nonpolitical subverses have very little activity, but there have been a few lengthy discussions between people over the subject matter that the subverses are about.

There is some humorous political content in the form of videos. This is probably the most upvoted kind of content. As examples, I shared a heap of ones I found in this post here, all of which come from Voat posts: https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/7wtl/clown_world_idiocracy/

There is only one obvious troll, 'Darkness', who purports to be a black man but his comment history is of someone clearly 'taking the piss', probably intentionally acting semi-literate and clearly not having done a fraction of all the ridiculous things he's claimed to have done.

Userbase are almost all Rightward of the GOP. They dislike Trump and are not the kind of people on patriots.win like Republican58. They're practically all J-woke. There are some anti-police attitudes which seem to be evidence of a horseshoe effect (such posts about 'pigs', etc.) Some users defend McCarthy's xxx posts on libertarian-free speech (don't like it, don't look at it) or slippery slope (we could ban it, but it might create a precedent) grounds but the majority clearly want him banned because it's degenerate (look at 'Jew_McCarthy' spreading this filth), it can be found anywhere (if I want to see xxx content, I'll go and look for it myself) and because of another slippery slope (if we don't ban it, it'll end up infesting the site and we're worried that people will eventually attack us with illegal stuff like CP).