20 retired French generals sign open letter warning of incoming civil war

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https://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/pour-un-retour-de-lhonneur-de-nos-gouvernants-20-generaux-appellent-macron-a-defendre-le-patriotisme/

The letter seems to call out critical race theory (imported from the US), Islamism and the undermining of police as existential threats to France. The generals assert that "if nothing is done" France will collapse into civil war, and the military will be forced to step in "to protect our civilisational values."

Letter from retired French military to political institutions:

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Government Ladies and Gentlemen of the Parliament

This is a grave hour, France is in peril, several mortal dangers threaten her. We who, even after retirement, remain soldiers of France, cannot, in the present circumstances, remain indifferent to the fate of our beautiful country

Our tricolour flags are not just a piece of cloth, they symbolise the tradition, through the ages, of those who, whatever their skin colour or creed, have served France and given their lives for her. On these flags we find in gold letters the words "Honneur et Patrie". Now, our honour today lies in denouncing the disintegration that is affecting our country

A deterioration which, through a certain anti-racism, has only one aim: to create a malaise, even hatred between communities on our soil. Today, some speak of racialism, indigenism and decolonial theories, but through these terms it is the racial war that these hateful and fanatical supporters want.

They despise our country, its traditions, its culture, and want to see it dissolve by tearing away its past and its history. Thus they attack former military and civilian glories with statues, analysing centuries-old words. This is a disintegration which, together with Islamism and the suburban hordes, is leading to the detachment of many parts of the nation and transforming them into territories subject to dogmas that are contrary to our constitution.

However, every Frenchman, whatever his belief or non-belief, is at home everywhere in France; there cannot and must not be any town or district where the laws of the Republic do not apply, because hatred takes precedence over fraternity during demonstrations where the authorities use the forces of order as auxiliary agents and scapegoats in the face of French people in yellow waistcoats expressing their despair. This while infiltrated and hooded individuals ransack businesses and threaten these same forces of order. However, the latter are only applying the directives, sometimes contradictory, given by you, the rulers

The dangers are growing, the violence is increasing day by day. Who would have predicted ten years ago that a teacher would one day be decapitated outside his school? We, the servants of the Nation, who have always been ready to put our skin in the game - as our military status demanded - cannot be passive spectators of such actions

It is therefore imperative that those who lead our country find the courage to eradicate these dangers. To do this, it is often enough to apply without weakness the laws that already exist. Do not forget that, like us, a large majority of our fellow citizens are fed up with your wavering and guilty silences

As Cardinal Mercier, Primate of Belgium, said: "When prudence is everywhere, courage is nowhere. "So, ladies and gentlemen, enough procrastination, the hour is serious, the work is colossal; do not waste time and know that we are ready to support the policies that will take into consideration the safeguarding of the nation

On the other hand, if nothing is done, laxity will continue to spread inexorably in society, ultimately causing an explosion and the intervention of our active comrades in a perilous mission to protect our civilisational values and safeguard our compatriots on national territory

We can see that it is no longer time to procrastinate, otherwise tomorrow civil war will put an end to this growing chaos, and the deaths, for which you will be responsible, will be counted in thousands »

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Pretty much every military in Europe - including the French one - is a custodian of civic nationalism. They obviously hate the divisive woke garbage that's coming over from the US, but at the end of the day they're still our enemies. A military coup would be a disaster for us. Sure, they'll crush the woketards, but they'll also give our population a false sense of security. The military won't increase birth rates, and it sure as shit won't install remigration policies. Not on its own at least. Before that can happen the military hierarchy needs to be purged from all civic nationalists and replaced with identitarians. Never forget that it was the old conservative hierarchy in the German military that betrayed Hitler. The military has always been a reactionary force. We need revolutionaries in charge, not reactionaries.

[–]VacaLeitera767 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What happened in Latin America in the 60s illustrates what you're saying. Short-sighted and intellectually limited military leaders took over with the aim of "crushing communists" but ended up strengthening them by their sheer incompetence and unlikeability, as well as total lack of understanding of social dynamics and the cultural sphere.

We need to change the culture and conquer the youth and we won't do that if we're represented by decrepit generals with a boomer mentality.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The military in Germany allowed Hitler to take power. Von Blommberg made the army swear an oath to Hitler even without Hitler asking it. He believed that Germany had to be a militarized society where young boys would be trained in the martial arts from childhood.

The whole male population would serve via conscription and due to the militarization of society they'd be half soldiers by the time they even entered traning. The military also supported Hitler's infrastructure and re-armament programs.

As for the ''betrayal'', they were right to do so. The German general staff were worried that Hitler would lead Germany into a disastrous war in Europe and they were right. But still they held their swords during 1939-1942 when it seemed Germany was winning.

However the war was lost after Stalingrad but Hitler refused to come to an honorable peace with the USSR, clinging to the delusion that he could ally with Britain and America against Soviet Communism.

They were completely patriotic and justified in trying to kill Hitler after 1942. The war was lost and continuing it meant simply ruining Europe and Germany as a whole. And they were right. Of the 8 million people Germany lost during the war, 6.5 million or more were lost after 1942, after Stalingrad.

Of the 50 million or so Europeans who died in WW2, nearly 40 million or more died after 1942. Treskow planted a bomb in Hitler's plane in early 1943. Had that successfully gone off then, Europe's population today might've been a 100 million greater.

Not to mention that the men killed in the fiercest fighting post-stalingrad were healthy men of strong moral character. What was left were the sickly and the cowardly.

This deification of Hitler is baffling when you consider that he caused the unnecessary deaths of more white people than any other regime in history.

And what for? Hitler himself understood that the war was lost post-Stalingrad. Yet, he continued the fight. And the result? Germany lost all the same, all of Eastern Europe cam under Stalin's occupation and Western Europe became an American colony. And Germans suffered a genocide.

Absolutely pointless.

Its even more worse when you consider the military aspect of the war and realize that Hitler's imbecilic decisions contributed greatly to Germany's defeat:

Besieging Stalingrad, not permitting Paulus to break out, delaying the 1943 offensive by 6 months, attacking a heavily defended position at Kursk, not leaving Central Russia and forming a more defensible line at the Dneiper, firing Manstein, delaying the Stg 44, delaying Me 262, wasting money on ineffective AA guns for political gain, not allowing Rommel to use the panzers to counterattack the allies on D-day. the Ardennes offensive...

People should have a nuanced view of Hitler. Yes he wasn't satan, but he sure as hell wasn't King Arthur

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

However the war was lost after Stalingrad but Hitler refused to come to an honorable peace with the USSR, clinging to the delusion that he could ally with Britain and America against Soviet Communism.

Its true. Stalin put out peace feelers, but Hitler rejected them. It was a bizarre decision. A rational observer could clearly see that he had failed in his bid to subdue the Soviet Union, and that continued fighting would only see the war turn against Germany.

Of the 50 million or so Europeans who died in WW2, nearly 40 million or more died after 1942.

Total European deaths from WW2 were around 42 to 44 million. The Soviet Union lost 25 million people. Germany lost 7 million. Poland lost 6 million. The bulk of the casualtys thus came from the Eastern front.

And remember, several million Jews died during the war. The Jews were concentrated in Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine. They aren't even white, so they should be subtracted from the European death toll. That brings it down to maybe 40 million or less.

Treskow planted a bomb in Hitler's plane in early 1943. Had that successfully gone off then, Europe's population today might've been a 100 million greater.

Well, the fighting on the Eastern front had already killed maybe 10 million people by that point. If Germany had made peace with the Soviets in early 1943, then that would probably spare the lives of about 20 million people. There would have been alot more Russians and Germans left alive.

Not to mention that the men killed in the fiercest fighting post-stalingrad were healthy men of strong moral character. What was left were the sickly and the cowardly.

You seem to be suggesting that mass deaths from the war contributed to Europes moral decline. But that doesn't hold water. Eastern Europe suffered far more deaths than Western Europe, and yet they retained their traditional values for much longer. Western Europe suffered relatively little during the war, but they were the ones who experienced a moral decline.

And what for? Hitler himself understood that the war was lost post-Stalingrad. Yet, he continued the fight. And the result? Germany lost all the same, all of Eastern Europe cam under Stalin's occupation and Western Europe became an American colony. And Germans suffered a genocide.

Hitler still held out a faint hope for victory even after the tide of the war had turned against him. He seemed to be under the impression that the British and Americans would come to their senses and abandon their Alliance with the Soviets. Hitler knew that they hated the Communistic USSR, and believed that their fear of a Soviet conquest of Europe would bring them around.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People should have a nuanced view of Hitler. Yes he wasn't satan, but he sure as hell wasn't King Arthur

That is really the essence of the entire "Hitler question".

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never forget that it was the old conservative hierarchy in the German military that betrayed Hitler.

After Hitler chose them over the SA...

[–]Richard_Parker 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

At what point will they admiit they were better off under the Germans?

[–]Bagarmoossen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Lots of people in the European elites are unhappy about what is going on. A part of the US elite surely is too, they are just overshadowed in America by the much more powerful Jews. If elite division becomes as extreme as the division we see in the populace, a civil war will be inevitable. That may happen as the American regime and the Jews' rhetoric becomes openly genocidal against Europeans.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, there is some divisions among the elites. Some of the more nationalistic minded elites are having their doubts about the validity of this new order the globalists are building. They won't do anything for now, but as society continues to fall apart, their concerns will only grow.

Even if their power is greatly eclipsed by that of the Deep State itself, these dissident elites still have the power to launch a revolution. The masses are increasingly coming to hate their lives, and will be ready to support anyone who offers a relief from their suffering.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And here I thought somebody only became a true member of the "elite" through Jewish support and approval. I guess they can be played like anyone else?

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sadly, there is no organized "3rd position" movement to take advantage of a civil war. I have no doubt that despite the significant numbers and organization of the radical left they cannot seize power. So we will likely just end up with a literal dictatorship of capital established by the military.

[–]president_camacho 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Europe is different from the US, despite the US perception that Europeans are more cucked than Americans, they are still a hundred times more ethnically cohesive, and will be for decades to come even if they continue on their current path.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The situation is indeed dire. I don't see people waking up any time soon, either.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Better late than never but they should have spoken and acted when they were in charge.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hard to do when kikes lets liberals like you let loose in the cities

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Liberals like me? Explain I'm curious. So you're a muzzie aren't you?