Connection of Communism to the Jewish population and the Bolsheviks.

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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

They were receiving major persecution from the Tsar.

The worst thing the Tsar ever did to the Jews was to try to force them to do manual labor. He gave them land and plows, and for that they wiped out his entire family.

Can anyone provide some info on the connection? Is it overplayed? Is it true?

Communist movements were extremely Jewish, especially before Stalin consolidated power (even though he cracked down on some Jews, they still had significant influence - his right-hand man was a Jew named Kaganovich). Jews made up 60% of the leaders of the German Revolution. Many other Communist leaders were Jews, including Lenin, Trotsky, and Bela Kun. Jewish Wall Street billionaires (Jacob Schiff, the Warburg Brothers) were also involved in financing these movements. "In fact, 85 to 90% of the foreigners helping the Chinese at the time of the Communist takeover were Jewish."

Why does it persist even up to its current form of "Cultural Marxism".

This is a means of capturing Judeo-skepticism and converting it into support for mainstream conservatism. The far-left cultural shifts do follow the ideas of the Frankfurt School Jew Herbert Marcuse, but these cultural changes mostly haven't taken place in Communist or former Communist countries. This term obscures the corrosive effect of liberal democracy and free-market capitalism.

[–]PunisherStickerGuy[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Your reply illustrates the problem. The link referencing the German Revolution says nothing about the Jewish influence on the movement. Lenins Jewish origins are not verified by history and it seems he did not have a strong enough bloodline to be considered officially Jewish. Further the article concerning the Chinese communists only refers to one man. A far cry from 85 to 90%.

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The link referencing the German Revolution says nothing about the Jewish influence on the movement.

They're not gonna make that explicit on Wikipedia, but click through the "leaders" links, at least 9 are Jewish in the Early Life section.

Lenins Jewish origins are not verified by history

huh?

and it seems he did not have a strong enough bloodline to be considered officially Jewish.

He was at least Jewish enough for automatic Israeli citizenship. Moreover he met with Chaim Weizmann to discuss the overthrow of the Romanovs years before the revolution.

[–]PunisherStickerGuy[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Started with Rosa Luxemburg from the list of leaders. Honestly, she seems pretty fucking amazing. From a quick glance it seems she was WELL within her rights to oppose the Tsar's annexation of Poland. Fuck that shit. So have a lot of reading to do.

[–]Mr_Tee 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I got a book on Rosa Luxemburg, the first socialist I ever read about too. An interesting, Strong, and Independent woman.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

at least Jewish enough for automatic Israeli citizenship. Moreover he met with Chaim Weizmann to discuss the overthrow of the Romanovs years before the revolution.

Sources?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4073133,00.html

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/08/02/the-red-face-of-israel/

[–]masterclass 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lenins Jewish origins are not verified by history

Despite undoubted pressure to say otherwise or to avoid the subject like the plague, it seems to be largely acknowledged by historians that he was at least 1/4 Jewish. His own sister even stated this. 1/4 Jewish means he would be considered Jewish under Israeli law and allowed to immigrate there.

Lenin's extreme philosemitism was unusual for Russians at the time, and Russian Jews were notoriously insular and hostile towards goys. They were far less integrated than say German Jews, which may partially be why the red terror and Soviet genocides that followed were so bloody. That Lenin would be so enamored with, trusted by, and surrounded by a group that normally had nothing but contempt for non Jews would seem extremely odd. His Jewish ancestry explains this, along with his ruthless hostility towards Russians and near total disregard for their lives.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

20,000 Jews were in the Bolshevik ranks by 1921. They did not comprise 85% but they did front most of the prominent positions in the commissariat and Cheka.