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[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Thanks for posting this very original and honest question we have never seen before. Since we oppose faggot/pedo/freak festivals, drag queen story hour, and sexual deviancy we are basically muslims.

Muslims are also polygamous, inbred and not very smart so I'm reticent to start a jihad in the name of wahabbist caucasia just yet

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Is it an Islam thing or an Africa/MENA/South Asia thing? The whole area has high inbreeding rates regardless of judaism, christianity and islam.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect it's a bit of both. Cousin marriages are implicitly endorsed by the Quran because of the mechanism of Islamic inheritance. Basically they marry within their own family so the family doesn't lose assets. This is similar to how European royals used to operate

Cousin marriage is also more prominent in the rest of the world. It's likely that Europeans often practiced similar customs in pre-christian Europe back when clans were a thing. The spread of catholicism broke up clans (even making cousin marriages illegal) and European leaders adopted manoralism and deliberately broke up clans to consolidate their power, eventually leading to the nuclear family being a thing. This is a favorite topic of HBDchick

[–]PaxClownicahorses 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well Africa and South Asia already have terrible performance regardless of religion( though South Asia culturally has far more bragging rights of cultural and mathematical achievements), but in the MENA, Chrstians(mostly in the Levant and Egypt) tend to be more prosperous then Muslims(Copts, Maronites etc) which has been theorised to Jizya (tax for Christians and Jews under Muslim rule) forcing the poor to convert while the wealthier could afford to pay up Jizya, and far less inbreeding which Muslims practise to keep wealth in the family: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/explaining-coptic-success/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=f871779b2b9f45f463ae7e234ec84836c47a0b1c-1608038688-0-Ae7occu_UPBO_aRpjQpP2j_LiBXRvcx8hwAjrMb8FG7Kac-enGTCX8SGnIzoAFBbZWKlM7o0UIDtZ7gZCXkMxu5w8b7_HP1rH3j7mhvkqK3mftQHinvQ1St3Y2fq31i5LN5OfVyzNxCnnUd0VhIrjJNmGtsQM0krYpXgicNcpOc5liKfkYmk6Gz8-DgEin1bky4uF3CRv0mTwUBcrdHMGLVFrcc4ctP3KCJe_DnTODtV6E1T2VFf_eyQJaA4x1ygcn1pkSqLFEXvxVOvs4leBpaFoz9CkEZszq_q_1W4OwcVRpETWUd9H_RpYJ5sA0CJtG_Gi1r4bqww3K8UptbljirVu6TVtpseJI4zKd0AyTG0

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are the Christian arabs less inbred?

[–]PaxClownicahorses 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not too sure about that sadly, but from what I’ve seen it certainly is considerably higher among Muslims than Christians

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That first link says "yes"

Unlike what is thought, consanguinity in the Arab World is not only confined to Muslim communities. Several other communities, including the Lebanese, Jordanian, and Palestinian Christian populations, have also practiced consanguinity, but to a lesser extent than Muslims

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In Europe the Catholic Church prevented mass inbreeding. It's one of the few good things the Church did.

[–]VarangianRasputin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm reticent to start a jihad in the name of wahabbist caucasia just yet

So there is a chance?

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been slowly radicalized by teachings of Imam Samad Al-Hiyadi

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    [–]PaxClownicahorses 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Interesting, but isn’t all of the Sub Saharan ancestry within Arabs mostly from the maternal side through Arabs taking concubines(the male slaves were just worked to death) though? And though lurking on Muslim circles on Twitter and Reddit, the vast majority aren’t very fond of the yehudis and are outraged at the Arab leaders being chummy with “the zionist occupied entity”. There certainly is a very wide gulf of mindset between your typical Arab/Muslim commoner and the (usually Gulf state) Arab leader, and considering that (including the wealthy Gulf states) the Arab IQ scores are absolutely abysmal to say the least, the Arab leaders don’t have to worry about being scrutinised for their every move they make in public like they are in the West by a significant politically conscious group.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's dysgenic...

    [–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If you are a Muslim, it is based.

    [–]UserAetheria 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Its partly based, but has a lot of downsides. I think that early christianity was very similar so if a large group of whites adopted islam there is potential for them to form their own sect. Similar to what the Romans and Germanic tribes did with Christianity.

    One of the problems in western society, one that is completely fucking, is us feminism and the fact that women can wield the legal system to completely destroy a man's life through divorce. They are able to take his home, children, money and soul. If you are forced to pay for child care and alimony with the threat of imprisonment there is no time left to even think about white advocacy. These victims of divorce rape are life-less husks. This problem is enormous and its partly why its so difficult for white people to have high birth rates.

    I think that Islam is a potential answer the problem above. Islam is right about keeping women in check but there is a hell of a lot of downsides to embracing it. The other commenters touch on why it sucks.

    I wonder, would you guys embrace Islam if it was the only way to fight white genocide, feminism and the JQ?

    [–]RichtoffLud 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Many are, but only those living in the Middle East. Muslims aren't. And besides they are against degeneration, they are also aware of JQ and against the Israel State, so much so that any threat to Israel in the East, some Islamist country is attacked by the USA (we know who gives the order here), this means that there is still resistance and based people in the Middle East. I also believe that there are many orthodox Christians based, but unfortunately Western Romanesque Christianity has already been completely (or almost), contaminated by (((global ideologies))).

    [–]Jacinda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I've travelled in Islamic countries and got the feeling it sort of worked — for them. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say it worked for a while but now the majority of Muslim areas seem to be suffering from population overshoot as well as the tremendous impact modernity has had on their life.

    I think any traditional way of life that has grown up out of a particular environment, to suit the needs of a particular ethny (blood and soil) is going to be based to a certain extent.

    You can get an account of what life was like in the accounts of travelers such as TE Lawrence who fell in love with the culture there.

    Globalism creates its own pressure and in many ways Wahabism is a reaction to the encounter with the West, a reaction against the annihilating forces of modernity (capital).

    Islam — despite the beauty of some of its poetry and its art — has little to teach us. Culture, as they say, is downstream from biology. Western society has been shaped by a different set of circumstances and solutions to our problems must of necessity grow out of our own social matrix.

    I posted earlier an article about the factors that make our civilization unique. As anyone who travels will tell you, those factors are not replicated elsewhere.

    The fantasies of the one worldists are often projection — they gaze on the other and see a reflection of themself or they seize on an extremely superficial (often imported or degraded ) element to preach sameness. Their arguments are frequently dishonest being motivated by self interest and their ideas — as people on this sub know — are sustained by the use of force.

    Western culture in a one sense is a master culture — not because we desire to dominate but because it has become the template which all other cultures have adopted, either out of expediency, or under pressure from the global demands of international capital.

    Unfortunately many of the concepts that lead to Western dominance are now leading to our dispossession. At this stage we should be working out a new metaphysic in order to bring about a cultural regeneration. That is something we will have to do for ourselves — Islam, or any other culture for that matter, has nothing to teach us.

    [–]MATKINS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't know or care enough about Islam to give a big-brained answer, but Muslims themselves are not always as 'based' as some think they are.

    I know most people on here are American and don't have as much direct contact with Muslims unless they live in certain areas of the US, but there are fuck loads of liberalised Muslims in Europe who embrace globohomo. I grew up in the English Midlands near Birmingham, which has loads of Muslims. I've known plenty of Muslim degenerates (by the apparent standards of their own religion) who drink and take drugs. Muslim women who shag around with white men and embrace feminism. If you spend long enough on UK politics twitter, you'll soon encounter Muslim women who have rainbow flags in their bios.

    The thing is, they're not as visible. They've blended in and assimilated (as the civnats dreamt about). The traditional ones are more visible because they dress differently.

    You've probably heard the meme that second generation Muslims are worse than their immigrant parents, etc, but that doesn't seem to be true. Many of the Muslims who end up going full Jihadi and carrying out those chickenshit terror attacks tend to be the ones who fail in liberalism, like the incels, petty criminals and alienated third worlders converts.

    A common narrative from the Counter Jihad crowd about the Pakistani grooming gangs in places like Rotherham were motivated by "Islam", there isn't actually much evidence of that. By most accounts they are local degenerates and organised criminals who target easy victims. They knew that a bunch of low class white girls in foster care or dysfunctional households were a safer bet than girls in their own community, because they were afraid of consequences.

    [–]VarangianRasputin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Islam is very much an Arabic thing. Considering how they couldn't get Spain to convert to Islam despite 800 years of dominance, and that Islam has no real mass-appeal outside of the Middle East and North Africa. A people's spirit and characteristics shape their religious beliefs (or the specifics). Put simply, it is clear that Non-Arabs will not willingly accept Islam en masse.

    [–]PaxClownicahorses 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Non-Arab’s will not willingly accept Islam en masse

    Lol no, the Persians, Southeast Asians and South Asians(1/3 of global Islamic population) played a significant role in Muslim history. However, in the case of these conversions, it took a few centuries for Islam to become the major religion(such as Bukhara, where the natives simply just left Islam when the Arab governor of the caliphate left, and only started seriously practising after they demolished the fire temple and gave them some money to attend the new mosque) while the MENA became Arabised quite quickly. But even after the nominal conversions of large regions to Islam, many of the converts just viewed it as some new religious tradition to add to their practises and syncretised it with Hindu and Buddhist practices (Punjab, Bengal, Malay archipelago). Ironically, colonisation helped these regions establish closer contact with more orthodox Islam in Hejaz, and solidified their Islamic practise today

    [–]VarangianRasputin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I stand corrected.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They venerate Christ.

    Unlike Judaism. But no, they are anti-Christ and dangerous to Christians. For them, yes, it works. I know many Christians who have preached in Sharia law areas and they have been fine with it.