I actually think we are in a healthier spot right now with the decline of reddit

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Reddit's censorship has shifted a lot of people off the site. Not as many as we want of course, but it's a start.

I personally only used reddit, pol, twitter and occasionally voat before.

Now, we have building blocks on those(except reddit) as well on saidit, ruqqus and that one other site with the odd name, plus perhaps the new td site.

I recognize our situation isn't still ideal, but I like that we have a bunch of different options on various sites now. And in the long run, it will get more people off reddit and onto other sites.

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[–]Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why don't we change our name from debatealtright to nationalism? or something of the sort? DissidentRight? AltRight image is tainted and is grounds to be banned from almost all platforms. Optics is key, and I don't think we should be the alternative to anything, we should be the main thing.

[–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Optics are gay. Alt Right is snappy and provocative even if none of us even identify with it anymore. It also keeps continuity from reddit.

[–]Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Optics is everything. Terrible products have come to market than better ones, simply because they were marketed better.

AltRight image was heavily damaged early in its life. The first gathering and it was already a failure with someone dying, and thats what most people will remember it as.

Optics is necessary to attract others.

[–]Richard_Parker 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

We can still post on reddit on r conservative, r tuckercarlosm, dark enlightenment. Just be a bit more restrained. I started posting on adam carolla because of my notoriety on dimeforscale, then started posting elsewhere. I also post on nyc and other reddits to break up the echo chamber.

[–]bug-in-recovery 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I am very happy with how the Tucker sub is headed.

It's a bit humorous that it's filled with both fully redpilled guys, and DR3 boomer cons, but maybe some of them will become aware.

[–]sineavec 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's a bit humorous that it's filled with both fully redpilled guys, and DR3 boomer cons

100%.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who were you on reddit

[–]sineavec 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sineavec, but I didn't post much until the BLM protests. And my name was FJFrancis1 in 2018, from February to May. I remember debating with a time-wasting leftist called "Two-Legged Moose".

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    [–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Tbh, I am losing hope with him day by day.

    We whoop and holler anytime he mentions the rich, bankers, etc.

    But at his core, he presents civnat ideals.

    Does he believe more than that?

    Perhaps, but without espousing them, what good does it do us?

    He is basically Trump + Paleocon litelite

    Preferable to Trump, but honestly not by much.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Glad you made it!

    [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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      [–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Why would you report it to AHS? Please explain. It seems like you are helping Ahs get more stuff banned...

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        [–]Richard_Parker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I think that pretense has already been thrown in the garbage. Sounds like a waste of time to me.

        [–]deAccount 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I get that you think it'll finally wake those neocons up, but it'll probably just have the same effect as t_d's ban: that is, a bunch of boomercons blaming their ban on china, then simply moving to ruqqus/dotwin.

        Either way, r conservative is completely run by pro-israel trolls, and you'll never be able to even post our ideas without being banned. It's long past time to just ditch that garbage website.

        [–]Cindy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        This is what we on the left refer to as accelerationism. Reddit is doomed, we might as well go ahead and accelerate the process by trying to get subs banned.

        [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        based

        [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Conservatism is our #1 enemy. Ban them, get them to migrate. Ban every subreddit for all I give a fuck.

        [–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Just remember to check you aren't shadowbanned when posting links to reddit's competitors. They are very happy to wield the banhammer to protect their site.

        [–]cloudrabbit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Dead giveaway of shadowbanning: if your account is very new and low-karma you should be restricted to 1 comment per 5 minutes or so. If you're shadowbanned the restriction magically disappears.

        [–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        I moved here due to reddit's DAR banning, and I do like it here.

        My only concern is that this site is more of an echo chamber than reddit (believe it or not).

        There really aren't any 'normies' here to show the light.

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          [–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I have been banned from there for months lol.

          [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Yeah I am hoping more will come. I would like to find a community with more involvement. Dead set against stormdrain. Aside from fed posting and fed surveillance, I do not think it is a viable community or offers real insight or intellectually astute conversation, above and beyond the bad "optics."

          [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Normies don't like challenges. They have the fear of their beliefs proven wrong.

          [–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Even I was a normie once though.

          I happened upon /r/milliondollarextreme and that got the ball rolling.

          [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          MDE never dies

          [–]Mr9to5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I think people with the right motivations will find a home, like here. I first came to Reddit to read /r/new_right when I saw an article from Alain de Benoit there. That was about 2012, peak free speech on the site.

          It was good to see people learning and having fun with the humor. But a lot of the material that became famous was crap, as far as people seriously learning an ideology well enough to argue for it. How much serious zeal can people get from a racial joke meme? And even the quality nationalism material was ultimately sharing a platform with subreddits dedicated to serial killers, illegal porn and drugs. Reddit was always beneath us. It was a short-term strategy to be on there, it’s a gutter to pull people up from and to be very afraid of falling down to the same level of.

          [–]ChancellorMershekel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It's better for everyone.

          Far-Left seem to have started up their own community called 'Raddle'. Someone on Ruqqus claimed that the 'Chapo' people set that up, and it is effectively their own Voat. The same person provided a link to a Raddle post to show how violent the comments were (a thread about what to do with 'dissidents', and the comments called for repression/killing). So we now have both sides in their own 'safe space' rather than engaging in aggressive 'brigading', etc. against each other. Remember, AHS were literally posting CP on subreddits they wanted gone. Pretty sure that's illegal. We don't want to exist in a single-space if that's what it comes down to. Segregating incompatible peoples is good—even in schools, any reasonable teacher would simply keep students who keep fighting with each other apart.

          Then you have the others, which are more balanced. A few days ago, Ruqqus celebrated hitting its 50,000 registered user count, and the site is around six months old. It also appears to crash a lot less (not as many '503 Service Unavailable' errors) than it did just a week ago. Some guilds (including some friendly to us) have grown by thousands of members over that time.

          As for here, it appears that s/GenderCritical (TERFs expelled from Reddit) have grown to 1980 members despite being eight days old as of writing this. So, there is a flood of people coming here as well. The site mod seemed to be worried that the site user-base skewed too 'Right'... but I think the question now is whether TERFs will end up dominating it instead, and whether there will be... 'TERF wars'(?) between Right-leaning users who, being expelled from Reddit earlier also arrived here earlier, and the new wave of TERFs who almost certainly will not confine themselves to their single sub.

          [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          That's a tactic I've been thinking off for a long time, mass promote the big platforms while promoting friendly platforms like this on them, sorta like a parasite.

          [–]CatharticApotheosis 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Hopefully this at least means we don't need to be quite as strict with the rules since we don't have the Reddit admins looming over our head.

          [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I only used reddit for DAR, The3rdPosition, and the occasional shitpost in PCM, so this sub is pretty cozy. Seeing a lot of great people made the switch. Not being quarantined and having the possibility for actual debate is great too.

          [–]everythings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I enjoy that I can upvote this twice