Debate a "leftist"

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[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

Okay.

So kind of synonymous with discrimination or discriminating?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

I guess.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

Okay.

So are you against all forms of discrimination?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

No, just discrimination based on identity rather than actions

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

Okay.

What variables do you include when you mean someones identity? Please be as comprehensive as you can.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Things like race, sexuality, religion, appearance, etc. Things that you are as opposed to things that you do.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

Okay. That's pretty good. So things that you can't change, that you're born with.

What do you think about affirmative action policies? I think it goes without saying that giving preference to one group necessitates discriminating against everyone else outside of that group, does it not?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Yes. Proponents of AA are usually pretty quick to acknowledge that it is racial discrimination. It's like when an athlete tampers with the ball. Sure, fixing it is still technically tampering with the ball, but it's just reversing a pervious injustice. Personally I see both sides of the argument.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

So you are or are not okay with this form of discrimination?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Eh. No strong leaning.

[–]Extract 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was merely lurking this thread, but, based on your stance on discrimination, what is your stance on affirmative action?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No particular leaning.

[–]Extract 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What does this mean, exactly?
Do you consider the practice, as commonly applied today in most western countries, moral? Just? Neccessury? Meaningless? Any other ways you'd describe it?

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I was a pragmatist, I'd say it gives a much needed crutch to a disadvantages group. If I was bound entirely by principle I'd say racial discrimination is bad regardless of the context. Both arguments have merit, which is why I don't really lean either way.