Part 1

I don't see how the government can be opposed at all without embracing the revolutionary aspect. Even if your movement starts gaining heat, the government will infiltrate it and destroy it. The only way to implement solutions without violence is starting society in the wild.

There's no such thing as a government. The US is a corporation centered in the District of Columbia. Your free to turn towards the woods, relinquish tacit contracts with the state and federal corporation and live self-sufficiently. What you want is a revolution, which is exactly what GRU and Mossad want in the US, which is being asset stripped as we speak by for-profit private corporations and think tanks.

Referencing the past I would agree. However, today we have much better communication tools and some of us are aware - and we need to share that awareness. Everyone should learn and be aware of not just the potential to be infiltrated but many of their tricks and tools of manipulation, deception, distraction, and division - among other things. By keeping everyone aware, obviously you must also temper them so they're not too paranoid and calling everyone a traitor. (I also temper myself by not calling you an "enemy" just because we have different ideas about who is at the top - thus I'm able to continue having constructive discussions seeking solutions.)

Agreed.

Further, IMO, we need to develop and promote fundamentals, like manifestos or constitutions or whatever, that lay out the basics clearly that cannot be deviated from. For example, I think FOTPACH is a good start (fair, open, transparent, peaceful, accountable, consistent, honest) for any and all management. Any management that cannot comply is fundamentally flawed and the people should demand better or at the very least be very skeptical.

How did men take control of the US and use their legalese to impose their will on others. George Washington exclaimed; "citizens are but Actors on a the most contingent Theatre." Washington and his comrades cared only about protecting THEIR assets and using think tanks and tribal in group thinking to do it. The Cincinnati society is an example of such. This tribalism is seen clearly with Zionist Jews and their think tanks who have basically asset stripped the US.

Starting society in the wild has pros and cons. The old society already has a head start and you'll have to catch up on EVERYTHING. Being isolated makes you an easy target to pick off quietly. It's expensive to get everything out there or to relocate if needed or in emergencies. Of course there are lots of benefits to having freedom. I'm 50/50 for toughing it out in the city or striking out in the wild. In 10 years we shall see who's doing better under the New Normal.

It won't have any pros in America. Bolsheviks want to destroy America, hence critical race theory in the US military. The goal is to destroy the US from within, eventually, when the multipolar world emerges and Israel can without consequence, make an alliance with China and Russia.

I'm worried about the level of discourse.

Because 'anti-Semitism,' obviously. Right?

How can conspiracists become a menace to the government when they can't even agree on who runs things?

Who cares who's at the top? They all suck: Jesuits, Vatican, Zionists, London Inc, Washington DC, B.I.S., Illumaniti, aliens, etc.

Corporations and billionaires are truly the rulers and they plan to use human capital in the technocracy age. Which is a Ronald Cohen idea. See Alice Mcdowell's wrenchinthegears blog or Elle Provocateurs twitter

The government is not at the top. Why menace them, with their monopoly on violence? Why not just "menace" and discredit the Jesuits or whoever above them? Or all of "authority"? Build a compelling case for your argument and convince people to join your crusade. It's true that you can't win/please everyone all the time - but in this case it's obvious that whatever you've been doing has limited efficacy, so you have work to do with your crusade's community.

Because Jesuits don't exist anymore.

Why not just develop good alternatives and solutions to resist by carving out our own freedom instead of challenging an illegitimate evil force with all the power?

That sounds better! Remember, citizenship is voluntary. Our systems run on faith. That's it. If everyone today said "I quit," and the middle and lower classes stopped paying their taxes, just wait and see how the house of cards falls. This sort of approach could set us back into a wild stage but more likely it will allow for more decentralized local projects to take hold—ridded of corporate capture.

My stand is that the Jesuits are the most powerful group in the NWO by a long margin, with them controlling all, or at least the most relevant intelligence agencies.

They're not.

Yes, we get that. But how and why and to what end? We all know about the rise of Israel, their lame excuses, and their professed goals and ambitions and prophecies.

If Jesuits didn't like Zionists and Jews, if they exposed Talmudic supremacy and Jewish tribalism why would they 'own Israel' and allow Zionist Jews to kill Palestinian Christians or have the Israel government maintain Jewish majority rule and make spreading the gospel illegal, when Jesuits spread the gospel throughout the world? Sounds like today's Jesuits are anything but Jesuits. Sounds like they're marrano Jews.

I propose to you, that you draft up 3 posts in a series - about the historical rise of Jesuits, why they're doing it, and what their end goals are - but I have one caveat: You write it out to be as clear as possible for newb readers, WITHOUT using any links or citations. Consider these your ultimate benchmark explanations. Obviously you can link information in the comment section when people ask for evidence or specific details - but do NOT write the OP with the understanding that you will link to it later. Feel free to reference this "linkless overview challenge". Also, message me so I can immediately updoot it. It will be good or you'll hear about it from me or others in the comments, but I won't take away my votes.

Sounds interesting. I'll advise hibs to read Christopher Hollis's History of the Jesuits book.

And they are a group of anti-Semites, so getting too obsessed with the Jewish World Domination theories is counterproductive. They are literally Jesuit/CIA propaganda either way, like I documented.