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Our food is poison.(self)

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“You would have to eat twice as much broccoli today to get the same nutrients as a generation ago.” That is according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, from 1975 to 2010, as reported by Planetary Health/Amberwaves. So much chewing! And in fact, the situation may be even more dire. Data going back to 1940, as reported by Eco Farming Daily, shows: “The level of every nutrient in almost every kind of food has fallen between 10 and 100 percent. An individual today would need to consume twice as much meat, three times as much fruit, and four to five times as many vegetables to obtain the same amount of minerals and trace elements available in those same foods in 1940.

look on the nutrition label for magnesium. I see pototatoes maybe once a year that have any magenesium in them.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/broccoli-is-dying-corn-is-toxic-long-live-microbiomes/

Magnesium deficiency in plants: An urgent problem https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221451411500121X

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FarmerGD 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun 3 years ago

A major factor contributing to this is the dramatic increases in yields. The same amount of nutrients per plant is being divided across two to three times as much product as they were in the early 20th century. This reflects the movement of the agricultural industry towards quantity rather than quality. Regenerative agriculture, pasture farming, and sustainable practices can reverse these effects. But, industrial agriculture cares nothing for the well-being of the people it serves and will continue to maximize yield at the expense of the world's health.

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FarmerGD 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

There are roughly 12 nutrients used by most plants:

Major nutrients: Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium

Secondary nutrients: Sulfur, Magnesium, Calcium

Minor nutrients: Iron, Manganese, Chlorine, Boron, Zinc, Copper (if I remember correctly)

The key to stabilizing the Earth's climate lies through regenerative agriculture focused on building soil organic matter through integrated animal and plant ecosystem management. Organic matter is mostly Carbon, and this is taken from the atmosphere. Most mono-cropped soils have less than 1% organic matter, while pasture soils have 5-6% and virgin prairie has over 10%.

The stereotypical cow is the Holstien-Fresian. While these cows produce large volumes of milk, their milk has less nutrients and the cows themselves have boring personalities. Of the six major milking cattle breeds, Holstiens are the most abundant, followed by the Jersey, whose smaller size, nutrient-rich milk, and playful, intelligent personalities make them popular as family pets and producers.

That enough? I tried to make it varied.

[deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Well actually the CO2 as a greenhouse gas is still only a hypothesis with no basis in fact. Just like "red meat will kill you with cancer" and "saturated fats will give you heart disease".

FarmerGD 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

CO2 isn't the only has used; all hydrocarbons in the atmosphere can be sequestered, though CO2 is the primary source. And I agree with you: red meat is actually good for you, high cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease (actually protects against it), and saturated fats are also good for you. Why did indigenous cultures make butter for millennia if it was bad for them? Our ancestors weren't idiots and they knew which foods were nutritious and healthy.

lesdyxic 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Honestly it's probably an intentional strategy to disable and subjugate the masses. They've done the same thing to information and communication, media and history, medicine and infrastructure. It's all in ruin.

iraelmossadreddit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

or they might be so evil they do these evil things subconcoiously withou teven thinking about it... there are a lot of people that do not have a voice or concious in their head.

lesdyxic 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Among themselves they openly discuss and advocate the disruption, subjugation, and ultimate ruination of the masses. I didn't believe it initially, didn't believe anyone could betray humanity on that scale but now I'm certain about it. They really are pure evil, are driven by a fanatic ethnic religious agenda. Their long term goal is the eradication of all other human tribes and control/ownership over the entire world. Publicly they advocate multiculturalism and generosity, privately they advocate selfishness and exclusivity.

[deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Agreed except the part about "eradication"... It needs qualifying: eradication as a racial group, but not eradication of all the individuals. They see us as cattle and slaves. See here what anti-zionists have to say about us, starting a little bit after 14 minutes in: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SpjbobMPSa1d

kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

You think Maya's were imagining they were evil as they rolled the heads of people down their pyramids and drank the blood of their victims....

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

All thought is from demonic origin. Depending on the level of evolution and consciousness of the individual, these demonic origins need more or less disguise.

FarmerGD 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Why do you think the government subsidizes this version of agriculture so heavily? Damn right it's intentional, only the farmers themselves really believe that they're helping the world. I'm a farmer myself, so I have a lot of experience with this issue.

dissent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

It's simply money. Follow the money. Have you never watched midsummer murders?

jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

So I've heard this is mostly because farmers switched from basically shit based fertiliser, which has an extremely complex mix of different nutrients, to chemical fertiliser which only has what the plant itself needs to make it big and productive. If the soil is rich then the plants take up a lot of nutrients which they don't need but we do.

Certainly in the EU use of human feces as fertiliser has been banned as you do get some food poisoning cases from that practice. So it's a balance of risk. Everyone malnourished so a handful of people don't die of dysentery? Is that really a good trade off? Are there not other ways to prevent food poisoning?

At the moment all our nutrients/shit are going out into the sea, causing all sorts of problems there, or landfill. We should be recycling our crap like we do everything else, and as we did do not that long ago.

FarmerGD 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 3 years ago

The main fertilizer was shit based, but never human feces (if the farmer knew what the hell they were doing). Manure based fertilizers utilized cow, chicken, hog, etc. excrement because they produced lots of good, usefully shit. Fertilizer based from human shit is a modern phenomenon and should not be utilized. Ancient cultures never used their own feces to fertilize their fields, and modern agriculture would do well to observe their example.

iraelmossadreddit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

i think human shit is more good for fertilizing a football field or something. people take so many drugs that get shit out you probably don't want that in your food. human shit can be really high in heavy metals...

idk maybe they can make a machine that cleans it... supposedly the astranoughts are using something to reuse water from there feces.... or maybe burn it for energy lol...

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iraelmossadreddit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

I think there is a little more to it besides just vit d and magnesium. the plants grown well and plants grown poorly can be so different it's almost unbelievable. some foods with really high brix content dont even spoil. they often just dry out as they go "bad"... then there are the beneficial enseymes and terpenes and flavors that are lacking in poorly grown plants.... the walmart oranges are not even worth eating imo...

FarmerGD 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

There is a reason the indigenous peoples ate large amounts of walrus blubber, fish, and organ meats (mostly liver and brains) - they couldn't make as much nutrients from sunlight so they depended more on premade forms from animals. And yet they survived and thrived in this hostile environment through proper nutrition, ancestral knowledge, and the eating of nutrient-dense foods.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Carnivore is the single best diet for humans. Preferrably natural or organic carnivore.

FarmerGD 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Every 'primitive' (I prefer original) group had a diet that placed great value on meat, even if there was very little. However, all animal products have this same effect. The ancient Swiss and other groups from the Alps survived primarily off of dairy products, simple rye sourdough bread, fresh greens during the right season, and very occasional meat, with a focus on organ meats.

The most healthy groups focused on animals products. The African tribes that subsisted on animals did so almost entirely on cattle blood and the products from it. The ones that had greater amounts of plants in their diet were dominated socially and physically by the tribes subsisting in animal.

Other groups, such as Malaysians and Polynesians, used jungle products and subsisted mostly on seafood.

In short, you are correct, only all animal products are important, not just meat. The modern system of primarily plant based agriculture for consumption is both unnatural and unsustainable. These products are easier to manipulate, store, and produce, and this is why Big Ag and the government are so obsessed with preserving this awful system.

Btw, monoculture systems are really inefficient. Most of the crops produced today are for feeding animals and ethanol/biodiesel. We would use 1/3 (yes, one-third) of the land to produce the same amount of animal products if the land were in permanent pasture. 60% of the corn produced today is used for ethanol. So when seed, fertilizer, and chemical companies use "feed the world" as an excuse to increase production, know that they are lying through their teeth. There is plenty of food in the world, but it isn't sent to where it needs to go because it isn't profitable.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

I know I'm right, I'm an expert on the topic.

suckitreddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

This may explain why people are so fat. Shit food with little nutrition, you eat more.

jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

It's a big part of it.

killerjavi98 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

In the US farmers make up 1.3% of the labor workforce.

FarmerGD 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

It keeps decreasing because only massive farms can be profitable under the industrial model. Any small farmers are squeezed out of business. At the turn of the 20th century, 50% of the population farmed. Along came urbanization, convenience, and heavy industry, and you get the current situation of few people owning vast swaths of land.

Ned 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Its because GMO. Instead of making the foods healthier they give them better looks and longer shelf lives.

iraelmossadreddit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

the gmo food also let them spray the foods with large amounts of chemicals that would kill other crops

FarmerGD 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

Glyphosate anyone? GMO crops are nothing but clever marketing and toxic excuses for food.

[deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 3 years ago

I'm not too concerned. People, except obese nutcases, live longer than ever. Besides, if I need magnesium I'll just nibble on someone's Microsoft Surface case.