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saidit can be sexist, racist,bigoted,anti-semetic homo/trans/islamo/xenophobic....but damn if it's not honest.(self)

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I loathe some of the crap I read on here, but in the long run, it's nice(refreshing) seeing people as they truly are, warts and all. How can we grow or evolve if we choose to turn a blind eye to peoples' opinions and pretend they don't exist. As humans it is our duty to see all available sides of the story, fact check, do some critical thinking and arrive at a conclusion, which is impossible to do if some of the information is hidden from our "sensitive" ear. censorship is basically a "you're too naive to be trusted with all the big decisions, how about we make'm for you" by the big guys, and I'm sick of it. Long story short- censorship is dumb, words can't hurt you, folks need to vent ,and ignoring shit you don't wanna see does more harm that seeing it.

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passionflounder 27 insightful - 5 fun27 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 5 fun 2 years ago

Discussing opposing viewpoints civilly and respectfully without the the expectation of persuading the audience is a lost art.

fschmidt 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

This isn't possible when intelligence drops too low.

jostiniane 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

IMHO trolls from both sides are the problem, once the discussion turns into hate speech we all loose.. No point is valid.. I agree with you, I wonder how many people can carry out a civil conversation.. Small communities like SaidIt are a good start I think..

Spotted_Lady 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

That is why you need to be exposed to more of what is on here. And getting to vent actually results in less negative actions.

Why can't more on the Left be like the older folks on the left? "I may not like what you have to say, but I'll fight to my death for your right to say it."

jet199 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

This is why most newspapers have comments sections even though it costs them loads of money to keep them moderated. If they don't then their readers start harassing the reporters directly.

[deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

they used to but now most newspapers took out their comment sections

Spotted_Lady 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Online too.

[deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

yeah either way, old time print newspapers or their websites, nowadays they don't want to give regular people a platform

Spotted_Lady 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Good point.

[deleted] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

race realism is . . . reality

so if you're honest you have to talk about it

Tiwaking 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun 2 years ago

It is possible to be a race realist and not be a racist. Race realism is 100% real. The NBA and NFL is full of amazing black athletes. Olympic marathon running is dominated by Kenyans. Physical differences between races, not cultures, exists.
But for some reason brains are off limits for racial differences? Thats ridiculous special pleading nonsense spouted by communist retards.

[deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

nah it's the same thing

racist just means recognizing there are differences between the races.

[deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

I thought "racism" was supposed to actually mean treating the other race socially as bad or "other" based on said trait differences.

[deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

race plus ism, should be obvious

BootsAndBeards 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

I don't think I buy that. Take hockey for instance, a lot of the same build, strength, and stamina requirements of football but radically different demographics of players. The Black kid who dreams of making it and becoming a famous NFL or NBA player is a trope for a reason. They see people like them who made it and they pursue it like crazy, its no wonder they are over represented in certain sports. Or the fact that Black people live mostly in urban areas, where Basketball as a sport dominates, or the South, where high school football teams can have stadiums that make colleges blush.

I recall reading how ancient Greek cities would specialize in certain weapons. It might start that one guy from Rhodes becomes a famous bowman, so it comes that Greeks elsewhere expect Rhodians to be expert Bowmen and Rhodians themselves idolize their local hero and strive to be like him. Cultures often adopt and reinforce stereotypes in a positive way.

jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Athletics is a better window on the phenomenon.

Every kid who has the option to turn up for track and field has the opportunity to try all the events and then go into the ones which suit them best.

[deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Take hockey

I thought black people just didn't generally like the cold.

Canbot 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

It is NOT possible to talk about race realism and NOT be called a racist.

Tiwaking 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun - 11 hours ago It is NOT possible to talk about race realism and NOT be called a racist.

Oh true. I forgot people could call people who are not racists racist

Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

You also forgot that it is an opinion no matter how you slice it. So when you say that you can do x and not be racist that isn't necessarily true. That can only be true if there is an agreed upon definition of racist, and agreement on the limitation of that definition.

However, it is YOUR opinion that some people are racist when they talk about race realism. Why is your opinion more valid than anyone else's? Why is the line of where racism starts set by you?

Being racist is so subjective as to be a meaningless thing. I find that everyone who objects to other's racism is really racist themselves but against a different group. It is thier membership in an opposing ideology that determines thier objection, not really a trait of the other person.

For example those who believe that most people who talk about race realism are racist won't admit that affirmative action and CRT are racist. While those who get pissed off about affirmative action generally deny that blacks have to deal with many consequences of the poor reputation of thier race.

Spotted_Lady 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun 2 years ago

Exactly. I got labeled as a bigot by people on Reddit because I share things that individual African-Americans have directly done to me.

SerpensInferna 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

I am racist because I grew up around black people. End of story.

grassfed 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Brave and stunning

[deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

yeah no one really cares about color of skin, if they were all nice cool people there'd be no racism, but in reality they do commit most crimes and are a drain on society. I wish it wasn't the case.

[deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

yeah no one really cares about color of skin, if they were all nice cool people there'd be no racism, but in reality they do commit most crimes and are a drain on society. I wish it wasn't the case.

Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

That is why they need what happened to whites in the past, a culling. I mean, first we lost settlers to the weather and a lack of food. So it took the heartiest to survive. As we had problems with crime in the old west, there were lynch mobs and hanging judges. And we lost frontiersmen as they traveled west. But slaves were the worst of the worst and we brought them here after the trials of the past.

And yeah, we had blacks before the slaves, though not too many, such as the First Continental Congress President.

[deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

yeah previously the world wars culled millions after decadence allowed the weak to thrive

Tiwaking 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun 2 years ago

When Muslims Mudslimes Sand Niggers are throwing faggots off of rooftops and people are outraged because you pointed this out and used the 'f' word, you know that the community you are in is destined to fail.

WhenImBanned 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

You should thank us for cleaning out the society of sexual degenerates for you since you've become so timid you can't even dare to say "there are two genders" without hesitation.

The Bible says if a man layeth with another men kill them both. We are implementing what's in the Bible that the Christian kuffar claim to believe.

Now say "Thank you"

jet199 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun 2 years ago

The bible also says to kill people who eat shellfish.

[deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

old testamwnt said that but jesus came and got rid of all the dumb shit

WhenImBanned 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

Well whoever claims to believe in the Bible should believe in that too, otherwise they're hypocrite cherrypickers.

Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Well, shellfish is disgusting so it's okay

Foidblaster9000 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

It really is.

Brewdabier 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Well said, over on reddit if you post a factual comment you get banned. Saidit is great.

Noam_Chomsky 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Please someone sticky this so new visitors can remember the essence of free speech.

[deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

Seems reasonable to me. Okie dokie.

ShalomEveryone 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Saidit is not honest, a lot of people responded to previous posts of mine denying the holocaust took place.

Shalom

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Entropick 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

It has upset me greatly to discover that that event did not transpire at all like your brethren made claims to it having happened..... at great personal financial benefit. It would look a lot better without the gratuitous greed and hatred daily visible from some of the residents of the holy land. I'm quite certain you, yourself, are not responsible for the disingenuity of the last 100 years so I will ask you to not take this personally.

I wish you the nothing but the best.

ShalomEveryone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

It would look a lot better without the gratuitous greed

Reparations and getting what one is owed for being wronged is not gratuitous greed.

Shalom

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[deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Reparations are what started the second world war, Germany was in financial disarray but still had to pay reparations for the first world war. Then Hitler showed up and blamed you guys for the whole deal. Germany recovered financially when Hitler took power. Reparation makes sense if you're making amends to those directly affected, making reparations to people whose ancestors were wronged makes no sense, things are fine now, you can achieve your potential with no one standing in your way because of your race. so instead of moaning about how bad it used to be for your people, you could speak for those who are currently being wronged. ...............Palestinians come to mind

jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Nope.

Germany hardly paid any of their repatriations for the war and they were written off. Meanwhile Germany took repatriations from Russia, who surrendered to them.

It was the guilt of losing the first world war which drove Germany to a second war and repatriations were just a political football at the time. Even without them the same thing would have happened.

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ShalomEveryone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Being honest does not equal being right.

It also does not equal telling outright lies.

honest |ˈänəst|

free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere: I haven't been totally honest with you.

Holocaust denial is untruthful, not honest.

Shalom

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[deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

it happened but a few hundred thousand died not 6 million

jet199 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

The Nazis starved 3 million Russian POWs to death in camps. Killing 6 million civilians is easier than soldiers.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

russia did have tens of millions dead, but that happens in war

ShalomEveryone 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

lol...thank you for your "honesty".

1.32 Million Jews Were Killed in Just Three Months During the Holocaust

In just 21 months, from March 1942 to November 1943, Operation Reinhard claimed the lives of 1.7 million people. But the bulk of the killing happened during September, October and November of 1942, Stone found.

The reason for the murderous surge can be traced to Adolf Hitler, as well as Heinrich Himmler, a high-ranking Nazi, who announced in July 1942 that almost every Jew in the General Government (German-occupied Poland) should be "liquidated" by the year's end. This order propelled Operation Reinhard forward.

Shalom

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[deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

Explain the logistics though. Globally we choked on 5 million covid deaths.

jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun 2 years ago

We clearly didn't choke because of covid deaths but because of fear and lockdowns.

BootsAndBeards 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

No shortage of people here would say there never were 5 million covid deaths either. Mask and quarantine mandates, early retirements, and market uncertainty are the cause of most of our economic troubles, deliberately throwing a minority in camps most people already did not like causes none of these issues. Besides most of the deaths were in the east and occupied countries, so the Germans were unaffected while the locals had much bigger problems to deal with.

Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

almost every Jew ... should be "liquidated"

Giant blenders would help explain the lack of bodies, and having no facilities to process them. Perhaps that "sun-dried jews" idea from old voat wasn't so far fetched. Instead of fruit leather, jew leather. Seems like there would have been stacks of the stuff though.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

an exageration but I admit a few hundred thousand died

most moved to Israel

[deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

What's especially dishonest is the tendency of many Saiditors merely to parrot far-right-wing talking points heard on Fox 'News' or at disinformation distributors noted at /s/shitpostnews, rather than think for themselves about the actual consequences of not trusting scientific research, or genuinely believing that non-whites should somehow be removed from the US, or the lie that smaller government and unregulated corporations will help the 99%, or relying on the other far-right disinformation that's pushed by the .01% . Many Saiditors would themselves be victims of those consequences and should be much more honest with themselves about the propaganda they swallow.

[deleted] 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun 2 years ago

If you show me news that's not propaganda, I'll swallow my hat

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[deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

You can't because it doesn't exist. Take a deep breathe and realize you are your own and only expert.

ShalomEveryone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

rather than think for themselves about the actual consequences of not trusting scientific research

True, well, that's "their truth". If something confirms their bias they take it as fact and promote it. If someone mentions fact based, researched information that goes against what they're saying they will just ignore it. If you're lucky they will provide a disinformed counterpoint.

Shalom

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Gravi 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun 2 years ago

We're everything that the self-proclaimed free people strive to be but can never achieve due to their fake freedom.

IkeConn 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

We call kettles black and cotton white. No gray here.

goobandit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Heavily censored places deny reality with contemptible arrogance, that’s no fun.

Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

This is not true. All the leftist spaces are just as racist, but they are exclusively racist against white people. It is not the racism that bothers you, it is the lack of a homogenous anti white narrative. It has never been "peoples opinions" that needed censoring, it is all the facts that contradict the bullshit you want to push. No one censors flat earthers. What triggers people is evidence that they are wrong.

aaarrgh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

despots just don't like it, always been like this always will be.

MagicMike 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Is something bigoted if it’s true? No.

Most black people are less intelligent and more violent than any other group. They’re ancestors lived on an actual ghetto continent, where the smarter ones left to find better places. When the Central African kingdoms ran out of gold to pay the Arabs (for weapons), they sold their peasants as slaves. These are dumb, violent people.

Fitter_Happier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

I cannot even stand to listen to or read kosher PC media, it's so fucking transparently fake. What's the difference between propaganda and just accepting comments that fit your narrative? None. It's the old "a million monkeys typing", but it's a 4 billion and there's a Shakespeare filter, only it's a Kosher filter.

Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Mime is a good name for you. As you are mimicking a conversation, and yet have said nothing of value.

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

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Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

Which do you wish for me to explain? How that I find his argument to contain no substance? Or how social media voting works?

How about you tell me and everyone reading this what you found so insightful about his post, and I'll be able to understand you better AXXA.

Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

words can't hurt you

Sentence upon sentence
Words are healing lament
For the death of my cock's spirit
Has no meaning in the soft fire
Words got me the wound and will get me well
If you believe it

The -phobe words are lingual propaganda. Suggests to the common person that it is a fear borne of ignorance.

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[deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

It's Lament by Jim Morrison. Hopefully that works.

Heter0ph0be4Life 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Tr-ns and Islam deserve what they get.

[deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

All suicide bombers are illiterates from underdeveloped regions, who have never read the Quran(Islamic holy text), and who only follow their sheiks(spiritual leaders)with no way to know if they are being fed lies. And the sheiks are only in it for material reasons... It is reported that the Islamic prophet Muhammad once said "those who attack their non-believer neighbors with whom they had been living peacefully without provocation, won't even be granted the scent of heaven let alone enter it."

Heter0ph0be4Life 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Nice no true Scotsman fallacy you got there.

[deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 2 years ago

I'm not saying there are no muslim assholes out there, I'm saying there are assholes in every community, congregation,race and faith. It's not fair to brand a single community as being entirely rotten, every tree has a rotten fruit hanging on it. people just like pointing to a specific tree and saying "have you ever seen such ugliness"

[deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

most muslims are assholes, not accurate to say all but it's like 99%

Aurumescens 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 2 years ago

Thanks, and yea, is refreshing a bit of honesty

Tronski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

Well, Reddit bans honesty, and that's getting old.

Tension 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 year ago

I AGREE