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I'd love to have a discussion about institutionalized education here in this thread.

this is what I replied for, in the OP.

the fact that this is the route you took doesn't speak well of your genuine desire for conversation here, I only feel my initial discomfort was more warranted.


eta: I was censored here on SaidIt without explanation

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"what if the institution itself is unnecessary OR even harmful?"

swarts' argument is that educational institutions were put into place for the express purpose of instilling subservience into the intellectual types in order to make them better workers. The educational institution is intended to increase profits and power of the bourgeoisie (who created the institution) if you'll excuse the Marxist terminology. Because it's aims aren't to educate but rather to instill subservience it will never further the cause of education (it may to some extent but to the detriment of the inherent pragmatism of the will to knowledge i.e. to effect the world and improve it for the thinker, think freedom here) So the question of whether it could be harmful is a direct point against your skepticism and perceived hostility, for if it is the case that it is fundamentally aimed at the wrong thing (not explicitly so, we are told that it is for education and the improvement of our own and our collective well being; a subversion on their part no less) then revolution not reform would necessarily need to be in order. We would need to subvert the subverter to return education to the goal of education and not subservience.

BTW you are the one derailing the discussion because I don't follow your rules for what a good discussion is to a tee. If you find it fruitless because I don't follow your precious Pyramid Practice just don't respond. No need to rage pedantically. You are far from warranted.

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buzz off dude. people are allowed to say "no" to you and it doesn't mean they did something wrong. you're not being respectful here. you didn't engage with what I said and just pushed me to read the essay I didn't want to read. I didn't like it and I said so. Lots of people treat others this way and I don't like it then either. Good day.


eta: I was censored here on SaidIt without explanation

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So now I have engaged and explained the essay rather than recommended you read it and your ego is to brushed for you to return to your original intent to have a discussion?