Dutch Government Gives Luxury Cruise Ship to Illegal Migrants While Native Citizens Struggle to Pay Heating Bills

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Wtf, why tho Netherlands

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Open borders for ISRAEL! Dutch people are passive, at least until recently when farmers protesting in mass. Now the ruling class and Cabalist Jews want to import the third world and exploit them.

[–]Lord_Falklands 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

almost time for the legals to enter their own homeland as illegals

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

These illegal immigrants are all young men. There are literally millions of them across Europe. This means their countries are full of single young women void of young men. Absolute pussy-fest. They take our land, we take their women!

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Weird how that keeps happening huh.

https://saidit.net/s/Conspiracy_proofs/comments/9sq2/undeniable_proof_the_elites_are_flooding_a/

What's with all these young men? Why don't they want to stay at home? Surely there's not a very simple answer I could check in 15 seconds. Because I refuse to spent 15 seconds checking so I'll just stick with wondering idly

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Something something free welfare something free housing etc.

[–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Same shit in the UK, US and De.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh look Paul "neocon" Watson. Shabbos Goys just love to shill for cabalist Jews. Have Jewish ngo's and ruling class bring in migrants from the wars they caused, then complain and create sectarianism.

[–]sneako 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully this will improve incel rights in those nations

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

So if he agrees that Dutch citizens are waiting for houses then he agrees that there's a shortage of homes in the Netherlands...which explains why the boat was needed?

Would the preferred solution for this idiot be: the refugees be left homeless on the streets? Does he think that would be a better outcome for Dutch citizens? They literally have to go live somewhere if not the streets, and clearly the residences are all allocated to Dutch citizens which is why they're queuing, so, using the ship makes perfect sense?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

I don't recall mention of refugees. These are understood to be illegal immigrants who have no intrinsic right to accomodation or other privileges granted to the tax paying citizens of the nation being occupied by the illegal immigrants.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

1:52 in the video he says they're claiming asylum. So I ask again. Would you and he rather they be dumped on the streets?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

I can claim to be a squirrel, it doesn't make me so.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

That's true. But when you submit the paperwork to claim asylum to a government official and receive official status then you're considered to have become an asylee. That's why it's different to your example. You aren't making the squirrel claim to anyone in particular according to any legal process and you aren't receiving government certification in return. In fact, being an imaginary squirrel is not something widely recognised, and it's not a status that the government recognises. Whereas being a refugee or asylum seeker means you can get housed by the Dutch government. So the government are aware of who is a refugee and who isn't, while there's no certification for imaginary squirrel.

It's going to be difficult for you to

  1. Ignore the question I ask a third time: should they be left living on the streets?

  2. Pretend you were not 100% incorrect when you said "These are understood to be illegal immigrants who have no intrinsic right to accomodation or other privileges"

  3. Keep making silly distractionary arguments from points 1 and 2 about imaginary animals

However I'm sure you'll try and find a way. Let's see just how retarded you can get.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Submitting documents does not prove that you are an asylum seeker or that you would be granted. It merely means that an application has been made. Should we house suspected criminals in luxury hotels ahead of them being tried and found innocent or guilty?

In either case, these people expect to be accommodated but do not require a house or five star cruise ship. They would be suited to be placed in a processing centre, where basic food and shelter needs are met and basic first aid. Nothing more is necessary.

Statistical evidence has suggested that up to 40% of those entering the UK illegally are economic migrants from Albania, not a war torn country. During the peak of the middle eastern migrant movements across Europe, Czech Republic reported that most applications had the same date of birth. Many of these men go on to try to enter children's schools by claiming they are not adults. Migrants are not to be trusted and.treated because they signed a piece of paper.

So I stand by my statement, you can say that you are a squirrel but it does not make it so.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

US has a similar problem

"In order to be granted asylum, an individual is required to provide evidence demonstrating either that they have suffered persecution on account of a protected ground in the past, and/or that they have a “well-founded fear” of future persecution in their home country."

The 2 million people coming across the southern border every year are NOT being politically persecuted, they just live in countries with shitty and corrupt governments. Edward Snowden and Julian Assange are poltically persecuted, not poor people living in cartel areas.

I will grant that this is problem largely due to our foreign policies of coups, embargos, drug wars and other destabilization tactics, as well as often personally installing the corrupt government ourselves.

I would think the USA fuckery in the middle east is largely to blame for Europe and their flood of immigrants, but admit I am less well informed about European geopolitics than my own

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Much of the problem has been due to the European Union pressuring countries across Europe to welcome and even invite migrants to come, although there has been significant regret from some leaders involved in the initial drive. I doubt they realised it would amass the millions in recent years creating a drain on the economy, a housing crisis and healthcare challenges, not to mention ever rising violent crime rates. We have a similar issue in politics where one side repeatedly succeeds in pushing for open borders despite all the evidence that the policy is failing. I have every sympathy for the difficulties the US is facing on the border.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It has been very very interesting to watch what has happened regarding these policies in the Scandinavian countries.

The countries were very successful at implementing neo-socialist policies (what I call the new tendency towards capitalism with heavy taxation and strong social safety nets, as opposed to the traditional socialism that is analogous to true communism) when they were able to maintain a very homogenous population, and for a while they looked like geniuses with great education, low poverty, low crime, and high living standards

The immigration was clearly a disaster waiting to happen for them, muslims don't culturally assimilate, and they are economic refugees that use a disproportionate amount of very generous and very expensive services. This was clearly going to lead to resentment, social problems, and a backlash that moves people in the opposite direction from what they are intending

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeedie, and the resulting disaster is clear to see, Sweden especially. We witness lawless segregated ghettos of Muslims, massive increases in rapes and violent crimes and lack of security for the citizens. It must be very unsettling to see your local culture be eroded in such a short period. We may be beginning to see the change in tide though as policy points away from encouraged mass immigration. The socialist policies largely prevented even talk of the negative consequences of the migrant failing to integrate.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The 2 million people coming across the southern border every year are NOT being politically persecuted,

The definition which you shared did not use the word "politically", did it?

How the fuck would you know the circumstances of 2 million individuals?

Julian Assange

Yeah the political persecution of: being wanted for raping a woman...

Or the political persecution of: being wanted for bail jumping on the rape charge...

Or the political persecution of: being ejected from your host's embassy because you can't keep to the agreement...

Or the political persecution of: assisting his sources in hacking the US government instead of just saying "I'm only a journalist but HMU if you find something"...

Or the political persecution of: threatening suicide in prison and getting put on suicide watch...

Yeah all the persecution he faces is 0% political, 0% related to his whistleblowing, 100% related to his terrible decision making

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The definition which you shared did not use the word "politically", did it?

It said: "provide evidence demonstrating either that they have suffered persecution on account of a protected ground"

Maybe you are unfamiliar with the terms 'persecuted' and 'protected ground'

Oxford dictionary, "persecution" - hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

On 'account of protected ground' would refer to someone being denied their political rights due to discrimination

Protected Grounds means race, religious beliefs, colour, gender, physical or mental disability, age, ancestry, place of origin, marital status, source of income, family status or sexual orientation or any form of discrimination

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/protected-grounds

Yeah the political persecution of: being wanted for raping a woman...

Prosecutors dropped the charges after the alleged victime recanted, he is no longer being charged with this, but still facing extradition

Or the political persecution of: being ejected from your host's embassy because you can't keep to the agreement...

He isn't facing extradition and prison for being a bad house guest either

Or the political persecution of: threatening suicide in prison and getting put on suicide watch...

Or this

Or the political persecution of: assisting his sources in hacking the US government instead of just saying "I'm only a journalist but HMU if you find something"...

You mean the whistleblowing that exposed the governments crimes against US citizens, while the poeple who committeed those crimes are still walking free...? But yeah lets lock up the whistleblower instead. I guess they should have waited for the government to confess.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There are seven grounds of discrimination covered by the law prohibiting discrimination

Ok but just reminding you that you said "political persecution" and now you're walking it back to - religious persecution, ethnic persecution, etc.

Now try and walk back the claim that 0 of these 2 million people you named, are really persecuted.

that exposed the governments crimes against US citizens? I guess they should have waited for the government to confess

None of the consequences that Assange faces are political persecution. Everything that happened to him is because he's a dick who broke the law.

You mean the whistleblowing

I mean that time when someone was hacking the US government and Assange provided live online step by step assistance. Yeah that time. The time he did the criminal things which he's being extradited for - not persecuted, but facing the consequences of his actions

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Wow nice, you managed to repeat and ignore your mistakes yet again

Submitting documents does not prove that you are an asylum seeker

Are you really telling us that you think: That someone who submits docs to seek asylum and is housed by the Dutch government, has not provably sought asylum? Are you that much of a moron? How can someone who has sought asylum not prove that they're an asylum seeker?

In either case, these people expect to be accommodated but do not require a house or five star cruise ship. They would be suited to be placed in a processing centre, where basic food and shelter needs are met and basic first aid.

Wow genius, I can't believe you figured this out and the Dutch government didn't. There they are, providing rooms on a cruise liner, while you have discovered that a simple processing centre would be sufficient! Incredible! There was no need at all for the cruise liner, they should have just used a processing centre! Why oh why did the Dutch government think of a processing centre on that day they booked the cruise liner?! God, you're so smart, you should email queen Beatrix with your genius idea, I bet they'll kick themselves when they find out, that a processing centre would have been enough!!

What? Wait what's that? Oh, there was no available processing centre?

In that case I ask you for the fourth time: would Dutch citizens be better served if the asylum seekers were made homeless and forced to live on the streets? Is that a preferable solution of no processing centre is available? Dipstick

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Speaking to me in this manner will not grant you respect. Go fuck yourself.

You know full well that my point is that people are not to be considered as legitimately requiring asylum until they are granted asylum, and that by inviting them to stay in luxury is an attraction for those who would seek to take advantage of the opportunity.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Oh no, now I won't get to hear any more of your amazing ideas like

  1. When you pretended that "These are understood to be illegal immigrants who have no intrinsic right" even though the evidence said otherwise

  2. When you pretended that people who have sought asylum are not provably asylum seekers

  3. When you ignored the question of - what other solution do you propose, other than homelessness

  4. When you discovered the novel fact that a processing centre would be sufficient. Just if only we could find one...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

If you create a problem such as manufacturing mass immigration open to abuse, you prepare for such. Otherwise, close the border. No country has any obligation to accommodate anyone other than their citizens, regardless of them applying for asylum. Furthermore, they have traveled through several safe countries to reach one that would offer them greater benefits. Fuck those people.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Should we house suspected criminals in luxury hotels ahead of them being tried and found innocent or guilty?

I sort of think so, yeah. A person is presumed innocent until they are proven guilty, being a prisoner is already a punishment.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Close borders, stop wars and kick out Cabalist Jews who use ngo's to flood European countries.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Wait now you're saying the Kremlin are cabalist Jews also?

https://saidit.net/s/Conspiracy_proofs/comments/9sq2/undeniable_proof_the_elites_are_flooding_a/

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.

https://i.imgur.com/nLp7DXR_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium