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[–]yaiyen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This I don't get why din't they do this year's ago. Just dragging their feet only after it bite them in the ass them they change tune. I think one of the reason they din't do it because deep down they have no loyalty to their own country.

[–]chakokat[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it’s more complex than that.

[–]yaiyen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

From what i have heard its trade balance what make it hard to trade with local currency but with Iran and Russia they have being doing a lot of business for years. Its not like India who have noting to sell to Russia. So yes they could have long time go do trade with there own currency but they choose the mighty dollar. These country's cant be that incompetent sometime its just greed and they see one another like enemy. Now after its too late then they scramble to fix the mess

[–]chakokat[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If Russia and Iran had started to do trade with their own currencies even 5 years ago what do you think would have happened? They would have been cut from SWIFT right then and there. BRICS was weaker 5 years ago, and the big ME oil producers were still enmeshed with the West. Both Iran and Russia have been in the crosshairs of the collective West for years that they had to be strong enough to survive the worst that the West would do in retaliation. Five years ago the US had a lot more power in the ME and 5 years ago neither Russia or Iran was strong enough to take that step and survive. Today they are.

[–]yaiyen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If Russia and Iran had started to do trade with their own currencies even 5 years ago what do you think would have happened?

Noting would have happen, they would have not cut them off SWIFT because they are trading with local currency, its not good enough reason. Some country's already used local currency to trade so its noting new, its just now they put it on high gear after USA take Russia off swift with excuse that they invade Ukraine. Look at Brics as example Russia and China dragged there feet for years they dint really put much thought in brics from what i see, only after the war started then they saw how much of a security risk SWIFT is and trade with west country's

[–]chakokat[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Iran and Russia have officially switched from the West’s SWIFT financial clearing system to a direct interbank transfer mechanism, the deputy head of the Central Bank of Iran (CBI) has said.

Mohsen Karimi told Iranian state television on Sunday that the system allows companies in both countries to trade in their respective national currencies instead of using the dollar or euro, FARS news agency reported.

“We have linked the financial correspondence networks of the two countries,” he explained.

“This means that the banks of our two countries no longer need Switzerland to communicate with each other and commercial banks of both countries can establish brokerage relations with each other. The [Iranian] exporter can now charge the Russian side in rials and receive money from them via Russian banks in Iran,” Karimi added, noting that the system also allows for payments in Russian rubles.

Belgium-based SWIFT is a high-security banking messaging system that enables financial transfers around the globe. While a number of countries have their own messaging systems, most global transactions are still conducted via SWIFT. Last year, key Russian banks were disconnected from the network as part of sanctions related to the Ukraine conflict.

Western restrictions forced Russia to actively promote its domestic payment system, SPFS, first introduced when the US targeted the country with sanctions in 2014, as an alternative to SWIFT. The system, which facilitates financial messaging between banks domestically and internationally, had 514 participants, including 131 foreign entities from 15 nations, as of the first half of last year.

Iran and Russia have both been targeted by Western sanctions. The countries first announced plans to scrap Western currencies from mutual settlements and use alternative financial systems in trade in 2022. During a meeting between the heads of their central banks late last month, Tehran and Moscow signed an agreement that formalized this aspiration.