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[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

Weird-fun question for u/Inuma & u/Blackhalo and anyone else who cares to join in.

What chick flick was the oddest for you to recognize as such?

Like, Mad Max: Fury Road is a chick flick, however violent. I made the case to a family member as to all the girl power stuff in it, and family agreed.

Alien vs Predator, too. She doesn't walk down any dark always alone & unarmed, blithering.

Whatcha think?

u/Caelian, O Movie Meister?

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The what now? Define chick flick. For me it's a romantic comedy, which might be disguised, like say Mrs. Doubtfire, but not Fury Road. Girl power can be fine if done right, like in Alien 1&2. Fury Road is just it done, badly.

[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So romantic comedy - like a RomZomCom? Heheh!

I'm not much into most romcom, but then The Bachelorette show (and Bridezilla or some such?) never appealed, neither...

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

What a fun topic!

Now I have a very specific definition of a "chick flick", mostly based on the wonderful "that's a chick's movie" scene in Sleepless in Seattle (1993).

The great François Truffaut said his goal with Shoot the Piano Player (1960) was "to make men laugh and women cry". Awesome film, a true masterpiece.

I've adapted this to define a "chick flick" as "a movie that makes women cry and men cringe" 😺

So given my definition, neither of those two qualify as "chick flick". Having strong women characters doesn't by itself make a CF. It's got to make women cry and men cringe.

Now, let me mentally review my thousands of movies and see what I can come up with.

Ah, A League of Their Own (1992) Strong women with some tears, but no cringe until the final scene when a bunch of old ladies representing the athletes in their old age are visiting a museum exhibition of their glorious years. How could you, Penny? 😾

I bet some others will pop up.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've adapted this to define a "chick flick" as "a movie that makes women cry and men cringe"

Perfect.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is more challenging than I thought. The reality is that I haven't seen that many chick movies, or else I managed to forget them.

But here's another stealth chick movie by my definition: Kenneth Branagh's 1993 Much Ado About Nothing. Shakespeare's play is not a "chick play", but in the hands of the wrong director...

Anyway, the two main characters are Benedick and Beatrice, played by Branagh and Emma Thompson, who were married at the time. At the beginning of the play they are constantly sniping at each other with witty banter. In the movie the banter is self-satisfied, smug, and way overdone. But you see, the sniping is a façade because they are really in love with each other, but both are too proud to admit it even to themselves. Around Act III, Benedick suddenly realizes that he loves Beatrice and covorts in fountains and performs other bright antics, imagining himself a teenage boy in love. This overacting is the point at which Much Ado becomes a chick flick.

Branagh and Thompson divorced two years later.

The real disappointment is Michael Keaton as Dogberry, the chief constable of the night watch. Dogberry is the funniest character in Shakespeare. He comes up with one hilarious malapropism after another. I like to read Shakespeare in my Riverside before seeing a movie, and I was laughing out loud as I imagined Keaton delivering Dogberry's lines.

Then I saw the movie. Branagh had Keaton play Dogberry as Beetlejuice. Dogberry does not need "improvement" — this stupid decision to overact ruined the part IMO.

On the other hand, Keanu Reeves was unexpectedly good as John the Bastard. A small role, but some compensation.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've never seen Jerry Maguire (1996) but my dad described it as "that most insidious of films. You think it's a guy film starring Tom Cruise etc., but then it turns out to be a chick movie." A friend of mine said something similar: "at the end everybody is crying and I realized that I was tricked into watching the Mother of All Chick Flicks" 😺

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The new Dune qualifies. Slow plotting, romance near the end with fate...

Other than that, it's mostly K-dramas which do far more and intricate plots than Hollywood.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

K-dramas

What is that?

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Korean dramas.

All these right here? She's either watched them or is watching them...

Right now it's Doctor Cha and Uncanny Counter.

[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have only really watched True Beauty, which got me thru snowpocalypse a couple years ago.

u/blackhalo will have to get back to you on definition - definitely movies that chicks I know universally enjoy and consider the lead gal to have agency and common sense.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah! I figured it was tangential to K-Pop.