There was no censorship, but it’s good that they censored misinformation.

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[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Instead of sharing a excerpt it's better to share an archive.org entry.

[–]stickdog[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Please do.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I can't, I keep being redirected to the website on my native language.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I keep being redirected to the website on my native language.

Perhaps a better archiver? We've had good results from archive.is
https://archive.is/eyNwd

(copy link, goto archive.is, paste in link -- that should avoid a language redirect)
If the archive already exists, you are given the option of making another (updated) one. Or not.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

These last few days that one went down 😁

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These last few days that one went down 😁

So far, though it's been down occasionally, it's always come back up.
So far.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Instead of sharing a excerpt it's better to share an archive.org entry.

Not necessarily. An excerpt at least shows what the article is about; an archive.org entry would still look like possible clickbait.
Better to do both, maybe.

(Maybe smaller excerpts, tho)

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The only point of an excerpt is for acessibility reasons. Anything else has a different meaning than an excerpt.

I do aggre we could use both on every post.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The only point of an excerpt is for acessibility reasons.

I disagree. The other point of an excerpt is to give people more of a reason to read the entire article than merely a headline.

I do aggre we could use both on every post.

However... an archive does reduce clicks to the original. Which, depending upon the site in question, could reduce the income for the original author. If you like what the original author is saying, why would you want to reduce their income, and therefore their ability to write more stuff like that?

Sites which have a history of sneaky stealth edits of the original article, oh yes, definitely archive that, before any changes, then archive the changes too. And sites that you do not want there to be any additional income generated for the article.... that's kind of a grey area. The concept of "fair use of copyrighted material" is a thing.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I just archive anything of interest to me.

It would only be malicious if the original post is the archived version. On my posts on Saidit I link to the original post and share an archived version in the comments in case future users stumble upon it and the website is dead.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I just archive anything of interest to me.

Times being what they are, probably a good idea.

On my posts on Saidit I link to the original post and share an archived version in the comments in case future users stumble upon it and the website is dead.

Suggestion: Make the archive immediately (just in case) but do not post the archive immediately. If you like what the author is saying, give them a chance to make a little "click income" first. Once discussion dies down, then post the archive link, for posterity.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Suggestion: Make the archive immediately (just in case) but do not post the archive immediately. If you like what the author is saying, give them a chance to make a little "click income" first. Once discussion dies down, then post the archive link, for posterity.

From what I know of social media, most users either read the headline and scroll past or click the post. Most don't read the comments. This is when it comes to posts that aren't /self. It would be difficult for someone to go for the archived version in the comments first lol

I'm not gonna remember to post the archived version later :P most posts on this website are very slow to gain any traction anyway. How I do it I think works the best for everyone.

Altough, I do share archived versions of websites I don't want to give clicks to. Such as kotaku.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

From what I know of social media, most users either read the headline and scroll past or click the post.

From what I have seen of the people in these two subs, that may not be as much of the case here.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point. Even some subs have archive culture.

I know that some users from /s/lgbdropthet archives the post they're referring to even without linking it. Users in the future might stumble upon the archived version.