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[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

From a comment regarding a Postil article that's been shared at WotB numerous times:

Posted this in the dregs of the 400-ish thread. I think a number of barflies would find this a worthy read :

A free 🍺for whoever posted the Postil link: The Wagner Mutiny/ Jacques Baud. 100% cleaner analysis than that of “ex”-CIA, Larry Johnson.

While at Postil, i found this: 1993: The Barry R. Posen Plan for War on Russia via Zombie State Ukraine / Mendelssohn Moses An obligatory read. Extracts: Its author, Barry R. Posen (Rand, CFR, MIT, Woodrow Wilson Foundation), belongs to the leather-armchair school of strategy the US so excels in: arranging for others to die for the US living standard. Paragraph Headers !

Manoeuvring the Ukraine into Demanding the US Armed Forces Intervene Partnership for Peace Designed to “impose considerable costs on Russia” If the Russian Government Reject further Western “Reforms,” NATO Must Act Confrontation with Russia “Probable” and She can be Provoked into the Ukraine The Ukraine Must be Shifted towards “Ethnic Nationalism” “Diplomacy Profits from Ghastly Television Footage”—Bucha, Anyone?

Give the Ukraine “Many More Opportunities to Inflict Disproportionate Casualties on the Russians

Move NATO Ground and Air Forces into Poland

The West will Need to Repudiate its High Minded Principles Publicly in a Series of Venues, All Ostensibly Designed for the very Purpose of Protecting these Principles

The Ukrainian Defence will be a “Catastrophic Failure” and the Army, Destroyed

A Divided Ukraine Would then Assume the Role in a New Cold War that Divided Germany Assumed in the Last One

Encourage the Ukrainians to Blow Up their Own Cities and Infrastructure

The Ukraine Must “Convince its Neighbours that It has a Million Men Willing to Die"

The Ukraine Must Learn to Love Poland, and Become A Dumping-Ground for Old Weapons

“Inherent Irrationality” of a “Violent Struggle of the Magnitude Envisioned Here” No Obstacle!

And if all else Fail, Nuke ’em

The chapter that most piqued my interest was:

Encourage the Ukrainians to Blow Up their Own Cities and Infrastructure

Extensive demolitions would supplement more conventional military operations to slow the attackers’ progress, and complicate their subsequent logistics. Much of this could be organized well in advance; critical facilities can be “pre-chambered” to speed the placement of explosives. Necessary explosives can be cached close to the designated targets, under the control of local police forces or reserve military formations, as is done in Switzerland, Finland, Sweden, and even Germany.

As the Ukrainians retreat into geographical areas where Ukrainians constitute a greater ethnic majority, it may prove possible to organize “stay-behind” forces to collect intelligence on the Russians and engage in partisan warfare. This too should be planned in advance.

Kakhovka dam!

It was damaged by missiles. But then it “just collapsed”

Under the 1993 plan, explosives would be prepositioned within the dam. Even if the explosives were not in place from 1993, they certainly could have been installed after Feb 2022 and before the Russians took control of the eastern side.

Highly recommend this read for barflies. Barfleas would benefit. But of course won’t read.

https://www.thepostil.com/1993-the-barry-r-posen-plan-for-war-on-russia-via-zombie-state-ukraine/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 2 2023 15:20 utc | 14

The things our owners media will never mention...

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This was a great article and is in our Ukraine war links under "Proxy war plans."

It shows how astoundingly cynical and morally bankrupt these people are - I mean, "The Ukraine Must be Shifted towards 'Ethnic Nationalism'"; "The Ukrainian Defence will be a 'Catastrophic Failure' and the Army, Destroyed"; "And if all else Fail, Nuke ’em."

[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It really shines a light on the 'long game' capital plays to achieve their goals, and it would be damn near prophetic in describing what's playing out in Ukraine presently, if it weren't already written out so plainly by the good Mr. Posen.

Someone should forward this article to Tucker, or to Jr., to let the American Sheeple know that their benevolent empire, isn't as benevolent as their news feeds would like them to believe.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Someone should forward this article to Tucker, or to Jr.,

Tucker would be my choice, he could do a point-by-point comparison of the highlights because it's like a blueprint (or prophetic, as you said) of what's happening in Ukraine now.

It's too bad the Ukrainian people living through this hell will probably never know what Posen and his ilk in the West think about them, that they're simply useful and expendable pawns.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know... I've been focusing on the connection of CIA to Ukraine with the trolls and they've yet to come close to that.

Now you give me power to beat them from the 90s onwards?

Their heads will explode...

[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's too bad the Ukrainian people living through this hell will probably never know what Posen and his ilk in the West think about them, that they're simply useful and expendable pawns.

Agreed. What frightens me is the ignorance, and in some cases the willful ignorance, of western societies who don't seem to care beyond thoughts and prayers about what happens to other humans, as long as it's not happening to them. Eventually, we'll all be held to account for what our owners government has done in our name under the guise of democracy.