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[–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That article literally defines the two encounters at the border as expulsion and adjudication. If the borders were open there would be no expulsion.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's clearly a proxy for how much illegal immigration there is. Do you think they're stopping all of it? lmao

Open borders of course is not just about immigration. There's drugs and terrorism to worry about too. Mark my words, when they stage a color revolution here they are going to sneak Azovite and ISIS thugs over the border (since they are likely in a terrorist database somewhere) to do the rooftop sniper part.

[–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Immigrants crossing the border encounter authority and resistence all the time. There is not a free flow of people walking back and forth. If that wasn't true we wouldn't have insanely crowded detention centers. The immigration that isn't being stopped are the ones coming via experienced traffickers who have paid off authorities to leave them alone. Open borders is defined as the movement of people.

Are you claiming US intelligence is going to stage a color revolution here in the states? I'm confused about how this relates to open borders.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Ok look, we're getting bogged down in a semantic argument. When most people talk about open vs closed borders, they aren't talking about how marginally more difficult it is to get across. If anything is getting across illicitly, especially with today's technology, then the borders are open. Including 'the ...ones coming via experienced traffickers who have paid off authorities to leave them alone.' That's how people use the term.

Are you claiming US intelligence is going to stage a color revolution here in the states? I'm confused about how this relates to open borders.

Duh? They've killed at least one president (that we know about), what wouldn't they do to stay in power?

It relates to open borders for the reason I just gave you. You seem to think that 'open borders' is a code word for keeping out the browns, and I'm telling you it's about anything crossing our borders that should not: drugs, terrorists, human trafficking.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it's about anything crossing our borders that should not: drugs, terrorists, human trafficking.

Exactly. In other videos Macgregor has talked about the fentanyl crisis that's doing so much harm to Americans while US armed forces and Coast Guard that might help to stem the inflow are deployed outside the US. He's also mentioned the number of Russian and Chinese nationals coming across the border (didn't specify which one) and given our hostile stance toward both countries, the fact that these immigrants aren't being closely tracked (on the apparent assumption that they're all benign) doesn't make a lot of sense.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It does make sense, if you see it from their perspective: a successful terrorist attack will allow them to assume more powers

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true. I always forget to put on my evil-thinking-cap when trying to anticipate what they might do next. The one I usually wear directs my thoughts to puppies and kittens and margaritas.

[–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My understanding is that most borders usually fall under what's called controlled borders. Personally, I think that's the definition that fits the US the best but agree our border control is highly flawed. I'd love to see an example of an immigration expert that defines open borders as referring to more than people. In almost every context and definition I've seen, border labels are referring to movements of humans. In this case I think it makes sense to have a discussion about semantics.

Assassination and color revolution aren't necessarily the same thing but of course I wouldn't put it past them to instigate something more similar to an actual revolution. Brining in their paid foreign terrorists to assist them also doesn't sound far fetched. I guess I just don't think it relates to immigration much because even if we had completely closed borders (akin to North Korea) these intelligence agencies operate above such laws.