The true crisis of Zionism: silent majority of US Jews have never supported it

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

staying silent = tacit support

some do vocally oppose it and deserve full credit

[–]magnora7[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Well, we're all humans, and we're all tacitly supporting every misdoing of the human race by not speaking out against it. So we're all to blame, in that sense.

Every US and Israeli taxpayer is also directly tacitly supporting this, are they not?

But this article is about people saying they disagree with it, so let's not blame those people right now. Because they literally are speaking out against it, or else the poll wouldn't have had the result it did.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My jury is still out on everyone (grin). I don't accept, or deny any group, as it seems like every group has a healthy amount of crap to culminate up to the top.

Having that said though, and on the Jewish issue. I know for every issue they appear to singlevhandedly push, usually they're leading the opposition as well.

I can make assumptions based off of this, as can anyone else, but don't. On that note though, I guess the folks in any opposition that claim to be part of the Jews, or any other group(like cops), should be able to put their feet to the fire/test, and give some answers. After all, if they feel the need to be in any 'opposition', but still maintain their outward allegiance with any other group, they are in essence advertising 'we're all like I am'; which can be taken for a 'sell'....selling themselves to promote a different agenda.

The fact is, our world obviously has turmoil, wars, and all that goes along with them like psychological operations. I don't think people really get the depth of how far, and in what shapes this can occur; hell I'm always guessing.

Keep true to you, and yours.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

we're all tacitly supporting every misdoing of the human race by not speaking out against it

Here's a progressive solution to that problem: end the human race

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not progressive, that's regressive and simplistic

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Sawboss isn't human. He's a Russian bot cyborg from the future, and he's here to usher in Armageddon.
He's a cyborg usher.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No. My solution is perfectly in keeping with progressive thought.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you suggesting that malthusian philosophy is progressive?

[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm suggesting that the implicit goal of "progressives" is the destruction of all humanity beginning with America. After all, that's the only way to have a truly just world.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In your opinion: Does the political term progressive have the same meaning in today's politics, as progressivism originally did in the 1890's?

Where do you see productive political activity occurring today?

[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In your opinion: Does the political term progressive have the same meaning in today's politics, as progressivism originally did in the 1890's?

No.

Where do you see productive political activity occurring today?

Not in progressive circles, where the entire goal is to destroy.

Not in conservative circles, where resistance to change amounts to no productive activity, aside from the usual.

Not in libertarian circles, because they're not yet able to break power of fascism. Maybe some day, though the potential destructive effects of anarchy are quite worrisome.

Fascism is where all the money and power is concentrated now, and has been since (my guess) the early 20th century. It seeks increased concentration of wealth and power, and to that end might be called "productive".

No matter how I look at it, the way we currently do politics can not be "productive". Until people wake up to the true paradigm there's not much hope for anything but destruction. At best we can seek to limit the harm by constraining the fascism.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Staying silent was the least-worst option for those who weren't interested in WW2 refugees, which isn't noble.
However, it is understandable.

It's akin to the nonracist white population in the South who didn't vocally oppose racism. It's not so easy to condemn your own community.
Let's not also forget that there was plenty of overt racist support in the North, as well...

I'm not attempting to make excuses for any group.
However, it's more difficult to openly discuss social problems with someone who doesn't openly state that they understand your social predicament. It's generally the first step to progress. Neutral engagement.