13-Year-Old Kills an Old Man on the Bus Because the Man’s Leg Was Blocking the Aisle

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[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (53 children)

Black?

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (51 children)

White

Here's the actual report: https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/02/boy-13-arrested-fatal-bus-shooting-denver-richard-sanchez/

Everyone in Denver knows that if you block the bus aisle, you die.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (50 children)

Doesn't say he was white. But if he was it's likely in self defense. And the old man named Sanchez is an illegal.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (49 children)

really stupid to focus on skin color and racism

it's as if you have no understanding or interest in the facts of the event

unhinged people of all kinds with easy access to guns are turning the US into a country of random murders

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

It's really stupid of you to be purposely blind to reality because it doesn't fit with your ideology and it's racist as fuck.

We can't fix problems if we refuse to identify what they are, and you aren't helping black people, you're keeping them down by ensuring the problem cannot be addressed.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Attaching a news report to an ideology about skin color is idiotic, and you know it

Look at the many instances of white kids killing school children and others over the years because they can get guns. No one is calling that a "white" people problem, are they? Murderers - as we know from statistics - are of all types. You're assuming that we should call this 13-year-old a black kid based on NO evidence. That's STUPID. It has absolutely nothing to do with ideology or politics or whatever. It's just a fact that the skin color of the kid is not known and does not matter in the slightest. Moreover, Jiminy is assuming the 60 year-old man is an illegal immigrant. WTF.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

because they can get guns

No guns isn't even an option, but that's not true. When I went to school kids were allowed to bring guns onto campus, secured in their vehicles, and there were zero issues.

Antidepressants are a likely culprit, why don't we ban those instead. I bet the school shootings would disappear, assuming the kids ever recover, but even if some couldn't, they'd be the last generation to be a threat.

No one is calling that a "white" people problem, are they?

Fuck yes they do.

You're assuming that we should call this 13-year-old a black kid based on NO evidence

It's black behavior, there's plenty of precedent to assume this was a black kid.

does not matter in the slightest

It does, as I said, if you ignore skin color you try fixing the wrong issue. You mistakenly see it as a gun issue, so your solution is to ban guns. You won't fix the problem solving the wrong issue.

It's a black issue and frankly social pressure can be used to possibly mitigate a lot of it. I no longer see black people hooting and hollering like apes in the movie theaters, and it's because they got made fun of for it, and will call each other out for acting poorly.

By ignoring this is a black problem you are dooming them to continue acting like subhuman thugs. You're killing black people and throwing away their lives to prison with your racism even as you believe yourself to be some kind of righteous anti racist. You're a typical smug liberal hypocrite racist.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No guns isn't even an option, but that's not true. When I went to school kids were allowed to bring guns onto campus, secured in their vehicles, and there were zero issues.

This is an entirely different issue. You can't change the topic to "no guns". The problem is that it's EASY for a 13-year-old to get a gun in the US.

Antidepressants are a likely culprit, why don't we ban those instead. I bet the school shootings would disappear, assuming the kids ever recover, but even if some couldn't, they'd be the last generation to be a threat.

Also off topic, and unlikely. A 13-year-old on antidepressants? Not common.

No one is calling that a "white" people problem, are they?

Fuck yes they do.

NO they don't. "Another white teenager shot someone today...." Nope.

You're assuming that we should call this 13-year-old a black kid based on NO evidence

It's black behavior, there's plenty of precedent to assume this was a black kid.

BUT there's NO evidence. Think of the world we'd live in where no evidence was used for understanding crimes. Oh wait - that's Saidit?

does not matter in the slightest

It does, as I said, if you ignore skin color you try fixing the wrong issue. You mistakenly see it as a gun issue, so your solution is to ban guns. You won't fix the problem solving the wrong issue.

I did NOT ignore skin color. There is NO skin color to discuss because it's NOT related to this incident. You're ADDING skin color to it, for your own reasons.

It's a black issue and frankly social pressure can be used to possibly mitigate a lot of it. I no longer see black people hooting and hollering like apes in the movie theaters, and it's because they got made fun of for it, and will call each other out for acting poorly.

Again - you don't know and it's not necessarily related.

By ignoring this is a black problem you are dooming them to continue acting like subhuman thugs. You're killing black people and throwing away their lives to prison with your racism even as you believe yourself to be some kind of righteous anti racist. You're a typical smug liberal hypocrite racist.

Nobody is ignoring something that does not exist. Skin color is NOT part of the incident information. You also reveal here that anyone in your view who does not majically project a black shooter onto this incident is a smug liberal hypocrite. More projecting from your part. If I don't want to project onto this incident a pack of lies, that does not identify me politically. But let's say that liberals don't like lies and that fascists love lies. Well now we're onto something.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Also off topic, and unlikely. A 13-year-old on antidepressants? Not common.

Phooey & Jason were. Two people on this tiny site. Although antidepressants are a potential factor in school shootings, it's not behind black violence.

NO they don't. "Another white teenager shot someone today...." Nope.

You're living with your head in the sand.

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[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

https://hostux.pics/images/2024/02/08/100001501434f977f0f86f41c8.png PNG

That's not a news headline or introdution that notes that "a white teenager shot...."

I read a lot of news; that ain't in the news

But don't you worry - see the top comment here:

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/02/03/denver-13-year-old-boy-accused-fatal-shooting-60-year-old-man-leg-blocked-bus-aisle/

The KKK at Breitbart are already looking for a dirty cop who will reveal the ethnicity of the shooter. If it's a black kid, you can post a comment: ThAt CoMMiE BasTArD CumSOck NigGrEDly piCkUp TrUCk hAtn' lIBtArd sAiD ThIs TwErn'T No nAyyGGr!!!l

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

By ignoring this is a black problem you are dooming them to continue acting like subhuman thugs. You're killing black people and throwing away their lives to prison with your racism even as you believe yourself to be some kind of righteous anti racist. You're a typical smug liberal hypocrite racist.

Damn shitrat, noice. Fully agreed.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's similar to the whole "latinx" thing. People like Socks imagine what would be best for black people without actually ever talking to black people. It's a slave master knows best mentality common among liberals.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Except that I did not ignore that it's a black problem. I've not discussed the issue with regard to blacks, or the lack thereof. And there's no connection with politics, "liberals", fascists &c.

I noted that we don't know about the color of the skin of the shooter and it doesn't matter. Both of you are typing emotional responses about your interests in making this a black shooter problem and a political problem ("smug liberal...") when you DON'T know the color of the skin of the shooter, and you can't prove that black murderers are any different than white murderers, or hispanic murderers, or asian murderers, or pigmy murderers (though we know pigmy's eat their young and murder several neighbors per year for fun).

You both don't have the facts and are instead focusing on making this report about an anti-black and anti-liberal message you want to push. What does that say about you? You're projecting your own racial and political hatred onto a news report that's unrelated to your fragile personal points of view about race and politics. There's no relation between that report and you MAGA, knuckle-dragging, sister-fucking, toothless, tattoo covered, pot-bellied, redneck snowflakes. None. (Wait, that describes you both perfectly, right? I mean that would be really odd if someone identified you according to your comments. Yikes.) /u/Musky

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Except that I did not ignore that it's a black problem. I've not discussed the issue with regard to blacks, or the lack thereof. [...] I noted that we don't know about the color of the skin of the shooter and it doesn't matter.

???? sounds like ignoring some potentially relevant shit to me.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

it doesn't matter

Massa says it ain't matter none, it mus ain't not matter den.

emotional responses

Fuck yes it's emotional, I find your attitude towards keeping negroes down abhorrent. I might like to say nigger sometimes but I wouldn't ever try and stop a peoples from elevating themselves. You would. You are. I find it disgusting.

when you DON'T know the color of the skin of the shooter,

Sounds like a black kid to me, cause gun violence is largely a black issue.

you can't prove that black murderers are any different than white murderers, or hispanic murderers, or asian murderers

I read the news constantly. You don't see all that many asian kids committing murder. It's not a colorblind issue. There are real racial differences whether you want to ignore it or not.

you MAGA

Now that's just retarded, nobody in this conversation is a big Trump fan. Everyone you don't like has to be evil MAGA because you can't even conceive of the fact you're dead wrong.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Very smart to, sorry

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

How does skin color explain the problem of

unhinged people of all kinds with easy access to guns are turning the US into a country of random murders ?

Do you have a 'smart' explanation that can be backed up with evidence?

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's genetic, they're violent and low iq

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Obvously not a smart explanatin, this generalization about billions of people.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So should we go over a billion people one by one? They'll 99% be low iq or and violent. Generalizations are good.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So you don't have a 'smart' explanation....

[–]Thinger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You are either woefully uninformed, or just flat out refuse to believe that Blacks disproportionately commit more crime than any other skin color.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Obviously not a smart explanation, as you can also locate statistics showing that whites commit more crimes (blue collar and white collar) than blacks, hispanics, asains and mixed people. You're also not considering the much larger proportion of whites to other groups for mass shootings. And you've missed statistics for the role in US murders of easily obtained guns for children and the mentally unstable, as well as for repeat criminals. And you've not considered firearm crime stats in the US compared with those in the rest of the world. So, skin color is not an important factor in the present case.

[–]Thinger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you can also locate statistics showing that whites commit more crimes (blue collar and white collar) than blacks, hispanics, asains and mixed people.

LOL not per capita. Did you even look at the table? Blacks make up 13% of the US population... but commit over 50% of all Murders and nonnegligent manslaughters.

Fuck off.

[–]Bitch-Im-a-cow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As I've mentioned, you're using only one factor. You've inored the examples I note above. You're also not considering economic differences. Many people in poverty also commit crimes. Moreover, whites, who tend to be wealthier, commit 45.8% of Murders and nonnegligent manslaughters . Whereas poverty explains many crimes by blacks, many whites NOT in poverty commit almost the same percentage of crimes. There are other factors to consider, but you can see here that your myopic example doesn't work.

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bet the 13-year-old boy was black.