Groups Like INCELS and MGTOW Turn Men and Women Against Each Other

submitted by VanillaThunder from self.TwoXChromosomes

Men who get involved in them, are turned against women. And women who read about them, are turned against men.

Participants in these groups are generally "peaceful loosers" who have given up on life and retreated back to video games + porn. It is okay to be hurt and "give up" and not try anymore. To be depressed. Most of them have tried and been rejected harshly, for having a micropenis, the drive of a stone, or the personality of a cardboard box.

Almost all of them have at least one woman in their life that they love. I know a person like this who is physically handicapped and you would not believe how hard he has been rejected by EVERY woman he has ever been intrested in. The rejection stings and sits with him every day of his life. It's a weight on his heart and soul and takes away all his pride and joy. He would rather just die and be done with it.

You should also understand that these inflammatory "incel" and "mgtow" posts are PUSHED by the algorithm to the front page because it pisses people off and generate a lot of comments. So when you build your map of reality of off those posts... it's not good.

I remember a mainstream media TV coverage where they demonised these rejected depressed guys who were just playing computer games all day in their mums basement, and the most popular post on their forum has like 27 comments. And I looked up that forum -- and it had like 200-300 members -- and they were build it up to be this dangerous, destructive force like the new scientology. Recruiting guys by the second into this dangerous religion.

It is important to understand that the algoritm wants to give you that next dopamine kick, and it will deliver something to generate that anger response. That irritation, but if you knew the background and story of why these guys have "given up" on life you would maybe feel good about the fact that they aren't criminals or hurting anybody but themselves.

You know, the same way all homeless people "have character" because they refuse to turn into criminals? If anybody have the motivation, they would, but still they refuse to steal or do other illegal things to make money. It's not MEN vs WOMEN it's BAD PEOPLE vs GOOD PEOPLE. Yes, most truly evil people are men but you cannot character assassinate all men becaose 1 in 1000 is evil.

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[–]proc0 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

These are not "movements". They are observable phenomenon in society.

and the most popular post on their forum has like 27 comments

Right, because back in the day, men weren't ostracized for being men. "Toxic masculinity" wasn't a meme, and those who were toxic, were just assholes, regardless of being men.

It's not MEN vs WOMEN it's BAD PEOPLE vs GOOD PEOPLE.

Agreed, except the status quo would disagree. Men are bad, unless they are weak and dress like women, and/or are gay. It's sad but true. There are plenty of examples in pop culture, with movies and video games. There are no more manly role models, and the ones from the past have been systematically destroyed, by either gender swapping or making them the villains. The best way to reverse this is to leave boys and men alone, and let them create their own spaces, and their own role models. Let them have their video game and comic characters again, to have something to aspire to, and then they won't grow up to be weak, pathetic males.

[–]VanillaThunder[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I wrote an entire long comment that I managed to click away while submitting it. The summary was that men's testosterone levels are RAPIDLY decreasing due to pesticides, chemicals, and microplastics. Estrogen mimicking chemicals. The only effective way to fix it seems to be testosterone replacement therapy. This cultural decay of men is masking this physical decay of men.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Possibly, I'm not sure about all of those. Definitely diet though. Meat is necessary for muscle and testosterone, yet it's being removed from kids diets more and more.

[–]VanillaThunder[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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